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04-14-2008, 06:20 PM
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Anyone else love Monk?
Something about his music just does it for me.
Plus he makes me feel like jazz doesn't *have* to be about virtuosity - just good music.
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04-14-2008, 06:28 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canada & USA | | | "Thelonius Monk with John Coltrane" is one of my favorites. It manages to soothe or intensify depending on my mood. |
04-14-2008, 07:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mid Hudson Valley, NY | | For me Monk is the greatest of them all. While Bird and Diz, Trane and Miles, Mingus and Ornette's innovations have been integrated and expanded few have even begun to explore the depths of Monks harmonic and rhythmic originality. Quote:
Originally Posted by kesslari Plus he makes me feel like jazz doesn't *have* to be about virtuosity - just good music. | I have to disagree here. Monks music is deceptively simple there is great virtuosity in his in his playing and composing. It is just not what we ordinarily think of as such.
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04-14-2008, 07:38 PM
| | | | i LOVE monk.
do i need to even say why..? |
04-14-2008, 07:57 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC | | | From the call and response of the chain gang to the white tie and tails of the ballroom, just uniquely playful and sensitive music. A crash course in what it means to be human. I love Monk's music as much as any other. |
04-14-2008, 08:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland | | | Monk WAS a virtuoso! |
04-14-2008, 08:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | Monk was really interesting to watch (not that I ever saw him live) but in the videos I've seen of him, he really seems to visualize what he's going to do before he plays. He seems to look like he's attacking the piano. A very interesting person. One of the first jazz musicians who's music spoke to me.
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04-14-2008, 08:32 PM
| | | | love his vamp and phrasing
but dave chappelle put it the best in bloc party \
he said that monk was all about timing, and comedians are suckers for timing, in music or a joke, and monk's timing was ill. See the movie
Monk is so great he went to juliard and played like no one else played before him, and made it so that you dont have to play the piano like everyone else, and has influenced picking on a bass, picking style on a guitar and new trends
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04-14-2008, 08:39 PM
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Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Mtns, California | | I never said he wasn't. And it's kind of beside the point, at least to me.
His music wasn't about virtuosity - that's the key point I was trying to make.
When you listen to, say, Return to Forever, you're hit over the head with the virtuosity.
With Monk, it's not the virtuosity that hits you, it's the music itself. Quote: |
From the call and response of the chain gang to the white tie and tails of the ballroom, just uniquely playful and sensitive music. A crash course in what it means to be human.
| A beautiful way to put it.
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04-14-2008, 08:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 97465 | | | I love Monk because he's so funny!! His music makes me think the guy must've had an incredible sense of humor!
The other cats seem so intense with their hard stares and their slick suits. And then you look over at this little smiling skinny guy with a rumpled suit and kind of a shabby little hat. And he's putting out all these off the wall little licks and outside jabs of dissonance.
Sometimes I can't tell if his songs are brilliance or just silly. Either way they're fun to play!
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04-14-2008, 09:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Austin tx | | | He may of been skinny and smilin but he was quick to pull out his knife as were alot of the Jazz guys form his time .There is the rumor that he would attack you iof you tried to look at his sheet music .Dont know if its true but From watching him you can tell he was at the least severley eccentric ,possibly sufffering from schizophrenia or torrets . But he was robably the greatest composer of Hard bop that ever graced the listeners ear . |
04-15-2008, 10:59 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Michigan, USA | | | I love Monk. Criss-Cross is a personal favorite. I like how it's just a quartet. I love listening to the LP. His writing and technique is just so original.
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04-15-2008, 11:20 AM
| | | | I do..cant say enough good things abuout him, that entire era.. really there were so many stars, it was like the renaissance era, but for Jazz
Monk, the hat, the dancing, the dense chords and melodies, too cool |
04-15-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scronus He may of been skinny and smilin but he was quick to pull out his knife as were alot of the Jazz guys form his time .There is the rumor that he would attack you iof you tried to look at his sheet music .Dont know if its true but From watching him you can tell he was at the least severley eccentric ,possibly sufffering from schizophrenia or torrets . But he was robably the greatest composer of Hard bop that ever graced the listeners ear . | Sparky, there ain't ANYTHING in what you said that's anywhere near accurate (oh, except " Don't know if it's true..."). Monk never pulled a knife on anyone, he never "attacked" anyone, there generally wasn't any sheet music, he'd teach the cats the melody and changes by playing it for them (except for the big band, there's a nice documentary that has some great rehearsal shots). He knew a LOT of doctors, none of them suggested he was schizophrenic. Likewise Tourette's.
You've kind of conflated stories about (in order)
Dizzy
Mingus
Bud Powell
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04-15-2008, 04:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: South West Sydney | | | two words.
Blue. Monk.
he was amazing, just watching him on youtube is awesome. i wish i could've saw him live back in the day! |
04-16-2008, 11:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California | | | "Blue Monk" has been an occasional go-to Real Book jam throughout the years for me...
somebody else already hit upon it, Monk w/ Coltrane is a must-listen... |
04-20-2008, 09:42 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NEW YORK | | | Monk was amazing. Always had great players. Great Concept in playing and writing. Straight No Chaser was probably the first blues I ever learned.
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04-20-2008, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua Sparky, there ain't ANYTHING in what you said that's anywhere near accurate (oh, except " Don't know if it's true..."). Monk never pulled a knife on anyone, he never "attacked" anyone, there generally wasn't any sheet music, he'd teach the cats the melody and changes by playing it for them (except for the big band, there's a nice documentary that has some great rehearsal shots). He knew a LOT of doctors, none of them suggested he was schizophrenic. Likewise Tourette's.
You've kind of conflated stories about (in order)
Dizzy
Mingus
Bud Powell | Glad you posted that!
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04-22-2008, 10:37 PM
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Great movie about Monk.
I could never play piano like monk, but I used to cop his licks all the time.
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