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04-14-2011, 01:25 PM
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I'm referring to 1:41.
We all know he is an awesome tapper, but is this possible? Or is it just bad editing?
Before you respond: I'm a big Levin fan, no flaming/torching/burning/overcooking intended.
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04-14-2011, 01:29 PM
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04-14-2011, 01:34 PM
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04-14-2011, 01:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego, CA | | | This album had tons of keyboard bass that either doubled or replaced Tony's work. I heard an interesting interview with him where he said he was VERY frustrated that he played this wildly funky bass part for "Big Time" and Peter ended up leaving only a 4 bar riff of his track in. The rest was a Synclavier bass.
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04-14-2011, 01:44 PM
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04-14-2011, 01:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Netherlands | | | So what are you saying? That he's tuning his bass for 5 minutes long? And you can clearly see the keys player is busy doing other stuff.
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04-14-2011, 01:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Four Corners, USA | | | Probably just a "gettin' into bit" edited in by the video editor from one of the MANY cameras. Levin may not have even done his little dance at this point in the performance, but at some other time and then edited in. And, I would not be surprised if a lot of the music was re-recorded (including the bass), as if OFTEN the case for so-called "live" performances.
I've seen so-called live performances made from multiple days performances - as long as the venue and costuming is consistent.
I'll vote for a combination of all the above.
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04-14-2011, 01:50 PM
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100% agree!
It's due to the video editing and not a playing issue.
Levin is the real deal. |
04-14-2011, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Stick_Player Probably just a "gettin' into bit" edited in by the video editor from one of the MANY cameras. Levin may not have even done his little dance at this point in the performance, but at some other time and then edited in. And, I would not be surprised if a lot of the music was re-recorded (including the bass), as if OFTEN the case for so-called "live" performances.
I've seen so-called live performances made from multiple days performances - as long as the venue and costuming is consistent.
I'll vote for a combination of all the above.
Levin IS the real-deal. | Agreed |
04-14-2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 16notes 100% agree!
It's due to the video editing and not a playing issue.
Levin is the real deal. | a-yup.....hard to imagine any argument there
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04-14-2011, 01:56 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle | | | My guess is editing. I find it hard to believe that TL would mime in concert.
Chances are they recorded several shows worth of audio and video and picked the best video and audio separately. The editor probably went "lets cut to the bald guy with his fist in the air here, that's cool looking" not knowing what a bass is or does. |
04-14-2011, 02:03 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Woodbridge, VA | | | If you look at 1:40, it shows the floor in front of the guy on keys as being empty, then at 1:41 you see the female backup singer walk from that exact same spot. To my eyes it looks like editing... |
04-14-2011, 02:06 PM
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04-14-2011, 02:09 PM
|  | C'mon man! | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Hawaii | | | That's from a commercially released concert DVD from Gabriel, there is almost always post-production overdubs done on those concerts.
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04-14-2011, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mambo4 My guess is editing. I find it hard to believe that TL would mime in concert.
Chances are they recorded several shows worth of audio and video and picked the best video and audio separately. The editor probably went "lets cut to the bald guy with his fist in the air here, that's cool looking" not knowing what a bass is or does. | Actually it's the client (PG's production company) that makes those calls. The editor has some input but is basically the mule on the session, like a recording engineer.
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04-16-2011, 02:33 AM
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04-16-2011, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by One Drop And he's not really there either, it's just a hologram.
RIPOFF! | But he's still good enough for his hologram to be able to play a real bass.
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04-16-2011, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jerry That's from a commercially released concert DVD from Gabriel, there is almost always post-production overdubs done on those concerts. | This.
And duh.
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04-16-2011, 07:05 PM
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"We'll fix it in the mix"
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04-16-2011, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by okcrum ...The editor has some input but is basically the mule on the session, like a recording engineer. | HUH????
Whatchutalkin'bout?
EDIT: "recording engineer" . . . "the mule on the session" . . .
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