Vid of Jason Newsted playing with Floatsam Jetsam!

bassist 4 life · #1 07-23-2007, 11:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK71gIYB1cc

his playing here is awesome!

**MAJOR METAL** · #2 07-23-2007, 11:58 AM

Jason Newsted = METAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baryonyx · #3 07-23-2007, 03:28 PM

I was just listening to Reload today, and I thought, "damn, this album is great". He brought so much to Metallica, my favourite Metallica bassist without a doubt.

ALL HAIL!

Hoyt · #4 07-24-2007, 12:48 AM

I'm more partial to Cliff, but Jason IS one of the most underrated great bassplayers of metal/rock (you GOTTA love that dude in the neck brace!)... I'm curious how they are going to sound on this next album with Rob Trujillo. I think as far as Metallica goes "St. Anger" was to Rob what "Justice For All..." was to Jason... Sonically at least

Now if Lars could just stop hitting that metal folding chair...

diechris · #5 07-24-2007, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoyt

I'm more partial to Cliff, but Jason IS one of the most underrated great bassplayers of metal/rock (you GOTTA love that dude in the neck brace!)... I'm curious how they are going to sound on this next album with Rob Trujillo. I think as far as Metallica goes "St. Anger" was to Rob what "Justice For All..." was to Jason... Sonically at least

Now if Lars could just stop hitting that metal folding chair...

but Rob wasnt on st. anger.. Bob Rock played bass on it

Dave Siff · #6 07-24-2007, 03:46 AM

Good find!
I had Doomsday For The Deceiver on LP. One of my favorite over-the-top album covers.

Hoyt · #7 07-24-2007, 07:42 AM

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but Rob wasnt on st. anger.. Bob Rock played bass on it

Your right, I forgot, my bad.... Do I get a Metal demerit now?

diechris · #8 07-24-2007, 09:32 AM

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Your right, I forgot, my bad.... Do I get a Metal demerit now?

nah but you gotta drink the rest of the Keystone Light hahah

Hoyt · #9 07-24-2007, 10:44 AM

only if you drink the rest of the Milwaukees Best, more commonly known as "The Beast"

**MAJOR METAL** · #10 07-24-2007, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris2112

I was just listening to Reload today, and I thought, "damn, this album is great". He brought so much to Metallica, my favourite Metallica bassist without a doubt.

ALL HAIL!

Yeah the Loads are my Favorite Metallcia Albums.

Baryonyx · #11 07-24-2007, 05:22 PM

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Yeah the Loads are my Favorite Metallcia Albums.

High five, they are simply awesome!

afinalfantasy · #12 07-24-2007, 06:53 PM

I hate to bring the topic down, but I never got what people saw in Jason. He seems vastly overrated to me and not that great, maybe because I'm not drawn to players who use a pick that much. Same with Cliff, never got what was so great about him. That's just my opinion

Hoyt · #13 07-24-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by afinalfantasy

I hate to bring the topic down, but I never got what people saw in Jason. He seems vastly overrated to me and not that great, maybe because I'm not drawn to players who use a pick that much. Same with Cliff, never got what was so great about him. That's just my opinion

How about Steve Harris?

Jason Newsteads greatness is subtle. I liken him to the metal version of Michael Anthony. Cliff Burton brought such a different dynamic to metal music at a time when all the bass really did was double the guitars. He added theories and harmonies within the bass lines that can be described as symphonically genius. Much like when Metallica played with the symphony on "S&M" and you could hear all of the amazing musical textures that could compliment their music, you heard Cliff making the bass line do all sorts of creative things. Metal is one of the few forms of guitar driven music where the guitars are actually an intrinsic PART of the rythmic force. The upside of this for a bass player, is the opprtunity to step away from that role a little bit and indulge our melodic side. Guys like Cliff and Steve figured this out and ran with it.

TeeMartin · #14 07-25-2007, 01:53 AM

That guitarist makes me glad the 80s are over

Tostenbass · #15 07-27-2007, 08:20 AM

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Now if Lars could just stop hitting that metal folding chair...

That would be nice......

Tommy el Gato · #16 07-28-2007, 03:55 PM

I'm not really a huge fan of Jason Newsted, but that was a pretty cool video. I especially dig the guitarists. My only real beef with the vid was how slow the tempo was; the drummer REALLY let that tune drag.

I'd also like to comment on how James Hetfield wrote pretty much everything in Metallic, so don't give Cliff or Newsted TOO much credit for their work in Metallica. You usually have to look outwards to those people's other projects to see how good they are as writers. This is a good example of Jason's talents (which are pretty strait forward). For a look at Cliff's basslines, you might want to check out Trauma when Cliff was a member. Cliff's basslines then were pretty Geddy Lee-esque (except within the context of an 80's metal band.)

Hoyt · #17 07-29-2007, 09:51 AM

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I'd also like to comment on how James Hetfield wrote pretty much everything in Metallic, so don't give Cliff or Newsted TOO much credit for their work in Metallica.

I don't even know where to begin.

The fact that you really believe what you are saying is FACTUAL, or that at 17 years old you think you know anything at all about how these bass lines were written considering much of that material was formed before you were even a tadpole swimmin'!

afinalfantasy · #18 07-29-2007, 09:59 AM

Age has nothing to do with anything man.

Hoyt · #19 07-29-2007, 10:24 AM

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Age has nothing to do with anything man.

You are absolutely correct, but I do think personal experience has something to do with the way we all understand and process information. Not to say that because anyone is older they have more experience, but as someone who has followed Metallica and been a fan for a long period of time, I pretty sure Cliff wrote his own bass lines, and was an imortant part of how Metallica formed their sound. If you listen to the difference between Kill 'em All, and Ride the Lightening, the two biggest differences in the bands make up are Kirk and Cliff, and those two albums could't be more different. Playing with different players on tour and in the studio, has a tendency to make an original bands material represent more of the personalities within the band... My guitar player writes alot of our material, and he may even have an idea of how the bass groove should feel, but I am the one who comes up with the original bass line that tries to compliment his guitar and the drums as well as I can. Sure, sometimes I double the guitar, and sometimes the drummer and I just do our thing while he solos. However, he never comes with a guitar riff and tells me "play this". If he did, I wouldn't be playing in this band.

And I apologize if I came across a bit harsh...

lamarjones · #20 08-03-2007, 08:23 AM

Not even sure what tune that was, its been so long that I heard Doomsday and Disgrace. He wasn't on Disgrace, but was part of the band while some of those tuens were being formed.

And Jason was picked up a little for his writing abilities, a little ironic considering I think he was stuffed into a corner for a while. THAT is hillarious, Lars out front, Jason in the back!!! I would think you want your strong rhythm players to be noticed.

Listen to Doomsday, and you'll hear some sick shreds by Jason. Also, Eric AK is an amazing singer. Too bad F&J always had that 10% cheese factor, I really dug them.