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View Poll Results: is "The Wall" over-rated ? | |
yes
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03-27-2007, 10:15 PM
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Do you think Pink Floyd's The Wall is over rated ? why? |
03-27-2007, 10:22 PM
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It is what it is. You enjoy the music or not. Its basically them writing about their friend and founder of the band. I think its a great album. Music is memorable, lyrics are at time haunting. Props to Floyd.
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03-27-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bikeplate  Hi
It is what it is. You enjoy the music or not. Its basically them writing about their friend and founder of the band. I think its a great album. Music is memorable, lyrics are at time haunting. Props to Floyd.
Rob | That could be any PF album.
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03-27-2007, 10:25 PM
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Yep. Agreed. Im not even a fan of Floyd. You dont have to be a fan to recognize the greatness
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03-27-2007, 10:45 PM
|  | TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A | | | Honestly, I don't know what to say because I like and respect the concept, the movie and the live show, but there's a "little" thing that I don't like: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM. I have the movie, the "Is There Anybody Out There?" live set, both "The Wall Live in berlin" double LP and DVD, but I've never had and never been interested on having the original album. I don't know what it is, but simply there's something that doesn't sound right to me. I think it has to do with the fact that when it was released back in '79, I only was into Kiss and AC/DC type stuff and didn't understand what was so great about "Another Brick In The Wall Part II", which was a huge radio hit here. I only acquired the taste after seeing the movie. |
03-27-2007, 10:46 PM
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03-28-2007, 07:52 AM
| | Pat's the best! | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Northern Virginia, USA | | | There are a lot of PF albums I like more than "The Wall". I find it rambling and self-indulgent / self-pitying. Largely autobiographical, like Roger Waters Yelling "aww poor me!! My life as a rock star is soooo bad, look mow much of an ******* I am." for 80 minutes. I listened it in it's entirety for the first time in about 10 years recently and it was better than I remember as a whole. But I still prefer "Animals". "Wish You Were Here", "The Final Cut", and "Dark Side" over it by a big margin. |
03-28-2007, 08:11 AM
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The Final Cut over The Wall?
I think the Final Cut was more self indulgent for Waters than the Wall atleast Gilmour had some form of input for The Wall
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03-28-2007, 08:23 AM
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03-28-2007, 09:05 AM
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you can pull it apart and over analyse and question the motives...but the difference between the floyd and bunch of guys in a toking session is that they were daft enough to acctually do it....and pull it off. |
03-28-2007, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by crispygoat Do you think Pink Floyd's The Wall is over rated ? why? | what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?
people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere
why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa
The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... 
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03-28-2007, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?
people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere
why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa
The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... | This post made me laugh |
03-28-2007, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo what a weird question... why do so many people want to turn a discussion of art from being a matter of subjectivity & taste into some kind of absolutist objectivist black and white thing..?
people who can only think in those terms shouldn't be in the arts, they should be hammering nails into pieces of wood somewhere
why does everything have to be 'rated' anyway...? why do we care if other people love or hate what we love or hate? are we so unsure about our tastes & beliefs that we need a mandate for them? baaaaaa
| no, doubt and if you don't believe this started reading the Gene Simmons thread in the bassist section sheeeesh!!   
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03-28-2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo ...
The Wall strikes me as primarily the adolescent whinings of a pompous egomaniac control freak... it's self-pitying & distasteful... despite this, I really like it and it's one of my favorite rock albums... | I have to say, you have a complete and total understanding of the album. 
I remember, at the time, seeing an interview of Waters where he talked about a show in toronto where they were playing songs from their latest album (Wish you were here, maybe). The crowd just kept yelling "MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!". He was so pissed he spit on some people in the front row. After that show, it hit him how isolated and egotistical he had become - that he had built a "wall" around himself and was totally ignorant of everything and everyone else. It was the point that the idea for "the Wall" came together.
I'm not sure he ever really "tore down the wall" in any way other than just recording the album.
But like most Floyd albums, The Wall is also about Syd Barrett.
IMO, The Wall is a great concept album with a fully realized storyline (mostly thanks to Waters). And it's a great collection of songs (mostly thanks to Gilmour).
The only issue I have w/ PF is that listening to them too much can be depressing.
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03-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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03-28-2007, 09:49 AM
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...Buying that album just before X-mas in 1979 and listening to it non stop over the X-mas break..
... a quarter century later we're still talking about it. |
03-28-2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by crispygoat Do you think Pink Floyd's The Wall is over rated ? why? |
Who is over-rating it - what are they saying - where can I read this?
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03-28-2007, 10:05 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | I just think it's weak compared to a lot of other pink floyd albums. A lot of the songs on it aid the storyline (which is cool) but aren't that good.
Strange side note, my favorite song on that album is "Vera."
Animals makes the Wall look like a pile of puke.
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03-28-2007, 10:33 AM
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03-28-2007, 10:39 AM
|  | put a bird on it | | Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Minnesota | | I think it is rated just right (??) I think that the wall has a great concept, with good music behind it--sure the lyrics might be a little too personal, but i ignore lyrics in 5/6 of the music i listen to | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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