What happened to the "Jaco Pastorius Live in New York" series?

[Toronto Bassist]

I have volume 4 (pictured below) and like it a lot, but I don't see these CDs around anymore...I was wanting to get the whole series. Were they maybe integrated with another set of releases maybe? Dropped altogether?

[Bruce Lindfield]

I thought they were bootlegs and that the family had campaigned to stop them being sold...?

[Toronto Bassist]

Seriously? Oh wow...I'd see them for sale in legit record stores (HMV) and everything. That's a shame, because like I said vol. 4 was really good...sloppy, but good.

[ugly_bassplayer]

Jaco was way past his on prime on those .
IMO
I'd rather listen to about 10 other of his albums before that series.
But I must admit they are kinda of a cool series.

[Toronto Bassist]

I can't speak to the other volumes, but 4 was very good...his playing was very tight and the places they went with their jamming was insane. The sound quality is not so hot to be sure, but it's such a fun listen.

[JimK]

Volume 4 was the 'best' of that series...I bought the 1st two NYC in a legit store just as I was about to climb onto a bus for a 5 hour ride. I had a Sony Discman with me (this was the early '90s, BTW) & I figured these 'new' Jaco finds would be perfect company.
I lasted about a minute; then I pretty much just scanned through both...I was stunned & I just burned about $35 on these.

EDIT-
I checked Amazon...IMO, Vol. 5 Raca was the best of the series.

[Bruce Lindfield]

The official family site has these marked with a big red "bootleg" on every album :

Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 1: Punk Jazz Big World 1001 (1990 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Donna Lee, Dania, Teen Town, The Chicken, Invitation, N.Y.C. Groove #1, Punk Jazz, Liberty City

with: Hiram Bullock, Kenwood Dennard, Alex Foster, Butch Thomas, Delmar Brown, Michael Gerber, Jerry Gonzalez



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 2: Trio Big World 1002 (1991 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Wipe Out, Straight Life, I Shot The Sheriff, Teen Town, Dear Prudence, Ode To Billie Joe, Continuum, Son Of Creeper, Cissy Strut, Three Views Of A Secret

with: Kenwood Dennard, Hiram Bullock



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 3: Promise Land Big World 1003 (1991 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Bass & Percussion Intro, Continuum, N.Y.C. Groove #2, Teen Town, Alfie, Why I Sing The Blues, Promise Land, If You Could See Me Now, Naima

with: Kenwood Dennard, Hiram Bullock, Alex Foster, Butch Thomas, Delmar Brown, Jerry Gonzalez, Michael Gerber



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 4: Trio 2 Big World 1004 (1992 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Fannie Mae, Dolphin Dance, Teen Town, Mercy Mercy Mercy, Freedom Jazz Dance, Late Night Talk With You, Equinox, The Medley: Changes, Purple Haze, Simple Song

with: Hiram Bullock, Victor Lewis, Steve Ferrone, Kenwood Dennard



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Jaco Pastorius in New York Jazz Door Records (1993 release, double CD) Bootleg
Tracks: Tracks identical to selections found on Live In New York vol 1-4: Dania, I Shot The Sheriff, Punk Jazz, Promise Land, Teen Town, Dear Prudence, Why I Sing The Blues, N.Y.C. Blues #2, Son Of Creeper, Invitation, Three Views Of A Secret, Naima, Continuum

with: Kenwood Dennard, Hiram Bullock, Alex Foster, Butch Thomas, Delmar Brown, Jerry Gonzalez, Michael Gerber



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 5: Raca Big World 1005 (1997 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Blackbird, Continuum, Mood Swings, After You, Sly Shuffle, Raca, Teen Town, Three Women, Good Morning Anya

with: Mike Stern, Steve Slagle, Adam Nussbaum



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 6: Punk Jazz 2 Big World 1006 (1999 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Amerika, Beaver Patrol, If You Could See Me Now, Dania, Dolphin Dance, Fannie Mae, Teen Town

with: Hiram Bullock, Kenwood Dennard, Alex Foster, Butch Thomas, Jerry Gonzalez, Delmar Brown, Michael Gerber



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Pastorius - Live in New York City, Vol. 7: History Big World 1007 (1999 release) Bootleg
Tracks: Bass Solo/Amerika, Continuum, Straight Life, Teen Town, Dolphin Dance, Agaya, History, Three Views of a Secret

with: Hiram Bullock, Victor Lewis



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Francisco Mondragon Rio featuring Jaco Pastorius - Natural Pulque (vinyl) and DIW 321 (1988 Japan) Bootleg
Tracks: Jaco plays on three of four tracks: Phlegeton, The Foreigner, Leap Frog

with: Francisco Mondragon Rio, Yaco G. Grau, Hugh Peterson


http://www.jacopastorius.com/music/discography/1985.asp

[Toronto Bassist]

Bah, I suppose that means that none of the money from the sales went to Jaco's family, either =/ In that case, I don't mind doing without.

[CharlieCraver]

Everything I've seen about these recordings said that they were bootlegs. I agree that they are a fun listen but at the same time way past his prime.

[VroomVroom]

Man, what a blast from my early 90's past. I'm guilty of having purchased vols 1 -4 before realizing that they were not legitimate recordings. Certainly rough sound quality, and some loose playing here and there, but I have to tell you - I got an awful lot out of these recordings. There was definitely some magic happening here and there. And now that Hiram Bullock is no longer with us, there's one more reason to enjoy the music. For better or worse, these recordings were truly a snapshot in time....but there's plenty of stuff on there to remind us that Jaco was a menacing force with a bass in his hands.

[Gubna]

This was the music that really introduced me to Jaco, then I went back to Invitation and Jaco - and then realized he was part of a band called Weather Report!!

[wskorupski]

I found these CDs at Borders like 6 years ago, and thought they must have been official. I still think they're awesome. Especially I Shot the Sheriff on Volume 2.

You can still find them on amazon and ebay, some as cheap as $4.

Vroom Vroom is right, they're a very important snapshot. I'd recommend them if you're really trying to study the guy. I found it really refreshing just to hear him in that setting.

[jerry]

Originally Posted by JimK

I was stunned & I just burned about $35 on these.
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That's how I felt back in the early 90's when I bought the bootleged VHS of the Jaco/Stern drug fest at the 55 Grand bar. There were some great moments on it, but it also broke my heart. The live in NY series are the same way, there are moments on there, but like some of the wasted-years youtube clips, I would hate for people to base their opinions of the impact of Jaco's huge contribution to the bass world on those recordings.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by jerry

That's how I felt back in the early 90's when I bought the bootleged VHS of the Jaco/Stern drug fest at the 55 Grand bar. There were some great moments on it, but it also broke my heart. The live in NY series are the same way, there are moments on there, but like some of the wasted-years youtube clips, I would hate for people to base their opinions of the impact of Jaco's huge contribution to the bass world on those recordings.

Yeah - that's the problem - I see many people on this forum saying they don't get Jaco and then ask what they have heard and they have missed out on all the great stuff there is on official recordings - very sad!

[Ben Wilkie]

While we're at it...

Is the 'Punk Jazz' Anthology - it's a double CD I think - legit? And would any of its tracks have been on the Live in New York series?

Although I've got a good selection of Jaco, Weather Report, Joni Mitchell etc., I still eye this one off every so often.. you know, just something to add to the collection!

Cheers!

[jerry]

Originally Posted by Ben Wilkie

While we're at it...

Is the 'Punk Jazz' Anthology - it's a double CD I think - legit? And would any of its tracks have been on the Live in New York series?

Although I've got a good selection of Jaco, Weather Report, Joni Mitchell etc., I still eye this one off every so often.. you know, just something to add to the collection!

Cheers!

The 'Punk Jazz' compilation is legit, it was on Rhino records and they usually do a good job on releases and pay the artists what is due them. There are none of the bootleg Live in NYC tracks on there.

[kerrycares]

speaking of rare/obscure Jaco recordings :

Jaco Pastorius - "curtain call"
Al Dimeola - "land of the midnight son"
Herbie Hancock- "mr hands"

[jerry]

Of the semi-legit Jaco boots, I dig 'Standards Zone'. At least Jaco was aware of Brian Melvin recording him.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by kerrycares

speaking of rare/obscure Jaco recordings :

Jaco Pastorius - "curtain call"
Al Dimeola - "land of the midnight son"
Herbie Hancock- "mr hands"

I have all 3...IIRC, Curtain Call is now on the "Illegal-Boot" list.
Also, Jaco is only on 1 track on Mr. Hands ("3AM")...a great track at that. On Dimeola's album...it's also 1 track ("Suite Golden Dawn").

Good link for Jaco's discography-
http://www.threeviews.com/jacodiscography.html#disc

[VroomVroom]

Originally Posted by jerry

Of the semi-legit Jaco boots, I dig 'Standards Zone'. At least Jaco was aware of Brian Melvin recording him.

Well said. Just last week I just listened to 'Days of Wine and Roses' from this project. I played it for a keyboardist buddy on the way to a gig, and he was knocked out by Jaco's tone and subtle authority over the trio. Even at that stage of his career - and if you believe Milkowski, the condition he was in - Jaco still had "it."