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06-08-2006, 04:32 AM
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So, what ever happened to Sepultura? I used to dig them from the first album up until around Chaos A.D. Last album I bought was Agianst, and I thought it was a MAJOR disappointment. Heard a few tracks online and I noticed they have completely changed their sound from say, the ROOTS era. What gives? I am interesting in hearing peoples thoughts about why Sepultura has gone downhill in terms of heaviness and brutality.
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06-08-2006, 07:13 AM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Marathon Man | | | Max Cavalera left. Max was the driving force behind them, he motivated every member to perform at their best and as a result, made some of the best thrash metal ever-I like their old stuff, and in general I hate metal!
Mind you, after Max left after the Astoria show in London, 95, the band collapsed. That Derrick Green guy just can't fill Max's shoes.
That said, max has been on a serious downward spiral since he left too. |
06-08-2006, 07:19 AM
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el Jefe: Rude Mechtronics | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | Max Cavalera left after 'Roots'. From the album 'Against' onwards, there is generally no more two-guitar approach to the songwriting. Replacement vocalist Derek Green occasionally picks up the guitar, but overall the sound is a lot thinner.
If you have a problem with 'Arise', you better check yo'self - as it predates both 'Chaos AD' and 'Roots' 
As an aside, I caught these guys when they toured a couple of years ago, and they were brutal!
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06-08-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by idoru As an aside, I caught these guys when they toured a couple of years ago, and they were brutal! | I sort of lost interest after Against, but saw them supporting Motorhead last year and they blew us all away. Even if the current material was not to my taste they could still play the old stuff with incredible force and conviction.
And just the other day, my guitarist plays me their new album. Just let me say, if anyone thinks Sepultura ain't 'metal' anymore, or have lost direction, give it a spin. 
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06-08-2006, 11:18 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: East Bay, CA. | | | I just picked up their newest album "Dante XXI" this past weekend. It's not bad, but it's nowhere near the calibur of Beneath the Remains or Arise, but it has its moments. Convicted in Life is a cool song with some cool riffs.
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06-08-2006, 12:43 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ribwich, ZF | | | Haven't really liked them since Max left. Then again Soulfly blows so I guess they all just lost their creative spark.
Beneath the Remains, Arise, Chaos A.D., and Roots are all great though.
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06-08-2006, 02:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | I don't think Max left: I'm pretty sure he got booted for stealing band gear and selling it.
That said: Post Max Sep/Soulfly = 
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06-08-2006, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Till I don't think Max left: I'm pretty sure he got booted for stealing band gear and selling it. | No, the band confronted him over concerns that the band manager (who was also Max's wife, Gloria) was cracking up (their adopted son Dana Cavalera has just been killed) Max didn't take the criticism too well, and announced he was leaving the band.
I think thats how it went. |
06-08-2006, 04:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY | | | Soulfly!
Man, I guess I'm the only one who digs Max's stuff with soulfly... Eye For an Eye is an awesome song. I saw them play here in the city a few weeks ago, and I was totally floored, possibly the best show i've been to. Everyone was really into it, it was just a great vibe. |
06-09-2006, 02:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA | | [quote=idoru]If you have a problem with 'Arise', you better check yo'self - as it predates both 'Chaos AD' and 'Roots'
Corrected in previous post. Indeed, I did mean to say Agianst.
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06-09-2006, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dexterward Man, I guess I'm the only one who digs Max's stuff with soulfly... Eye For an Eye is an awesome song. I saw them play here in the city a few weeks ago, and I was totally floored, possibly the best show i've been to. Everyone was really into it, it was just a great vibe. | Wasn't Eye for an Eye a Sepultura song?
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06-09-2006, 05:52 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada | | To be honest, I didn't like Chaos A.D. all that much, and Roots blew. As soon as they started having guest artists join in on the fun, I just didn't like them anymore; that's probably why I never liked Soulfy either (Wasn't the first Soulfy single with Fred Durst?).
The last pure Sepultura album, and the last good one in my opinion, was Arise. I had that on cassette and a wore it out. It had an awesome cover of Motorhead's Orgasmatron..
Regarding the breakup: I remember seeing an interview with Igor Cavalera. He said they had a contract with their manager, Gloria, for a couple of years and Max and her eventually got married. The rest of the band wanted to try a different manager, because she had become family, and they didn't want to mix family with business. Max took it the wrong way and left. 
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06-09-2006, 06:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Between here and there | | | Even though it is very different from the other Sepultura cd's, I really like their new cd: Dante XXI... As for Soulfly, I like their first cd, after that I lost interest in them...
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06-09-2006, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DaemonBass Wasn't Eye for an Eye a Sepultura song? |
Nah, I'm pretty sure Max wrote it after he left Sepultura, I could be wrong though.... | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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