WHAT has happened to Austin City Limits??

bucephylus · #1 05-08-2010, 12:43 AM

So, happened to turn on ACL tonight. They are showing some new song writer, Ryan Bingham. The bass player is playing some old axe, maybe a Silvertone. OK. Then I notice that the bass track is dubbed and not what the guy is playing. What's the deal? I've never seen that on ACL before. Are those guys syncing along to pre-recorded tracks?? For shame.

bucephylus · #2 05-08-2010, 12:56 AM

Next few tunes seem OK. I just have a hard time listening to straight quarters in the lower register while the guy is playing figures up on the D and G strings. Oh well.

So Low Bass · #3 05-08-2010, 08:53 AM

That sure doesn't sound Austin City Limits-istical. Natutally I don't fall in love with each show, but each show is always very well done no matter what. I guess the question is:

How was this new song writer (or perhaps who did he know)? I'd guess not too good (or perhaps someone very important).

**StrangerDanger** · #4 05-08-2010, 08:56 AM

Ryan Bingham is a Bad Ass. But Im in Texas and we know about him. Maybe he hasnt gotten very big outside of Texas.

So Low Bass · #5 05-08-2010, 09:11 AM

So that might explain things... the entire tune (or even show) was prerecorded with him playing the bass part. Perhaps it was alla "Hey Jude" video, where the only live aspect was the vocals. Always watch the drums for such cheating. Often, when the drummer isn't shown playing, it's a fake job.

Very unAustin City Limits-istical

leegreenman · #6 05-09-2010, 09:40 AM

He won an Oscar for the theme song for "Crazy Heart"

bucephylus · #7 05-09-2010, 09:54 AM

It seemed to just be the one tune that was off. The rest was right on. Never seen that before on ACL. Hopefully an infrequent thing. Bingham was cool.

benc · #8 05-10-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bucephylus

I just have a hard time listening to straight quarters in the lower register while the guy is playing figures up on the D and G strings.

Maybe the bass player was playing too many notes and the band leader made him re-do his part. I guess that's unlikely. That would be pretty harsh.

My other guess is the engineer/soundman lost the bass signal somehow during the live recording and the bass player had to overdub.

JTE · #9 05-11-2010, 10:42 AM

http://video.pbs.org/video/1481901644/

Could you lead us to the place where you see this without having to wade through the whole second half of the show?

John

agreatheight · #10 05-11-2010, 12:11 PM

Every time I watch ACL I wonder how every band sounds and plays so damn well. Some times I think there is some pre / post magic going on, but I can't say definitively.

otis_thick · #11 05-11-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by agreatheight

Every time I watch ACL I wonder how every band sounds and plays so damn well. Some times I think there is some pre / post magic going on, but I can't say definitively.

I am an Audio Engineer for a PBS/NPR station here in Indianapolis. I agree ACL has changed somewhat...here is a story from MIX online that explains the process

http://mixonline.com/recording/mixin...n-city-limits/

jerry · #12 05-11-2010, 02:48 PM

Manu Chao was heavily overdubbed when they were on ACL. I've always dug ACL for it bringing exposure to more roots orientated bands that were a bit under the radar, but in recent years they have been bringing on bands like Coldplay and the Foo Fighters who in my opinion hardly need the exposure afforded by being on PBS.

otis_thick · #13 05-11-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry

Manu Chao was heavily overdubbed when they were on ACL. I've always dug ACL for it bringing exposure to more roots orientated bands that were a bit under the radar, but in recent years they have been bringing on bands like Coldplay and the Foo Fighters who in my opinion hardly need the exposure afforded by being on PBS.

I agree but the point of those bands is to bring NEW viewers and more importantly NEW MEMBERS. The sad fact is that
funding has been cut drastically and the original supporters are getting older and dying off. ACL-Mountain-Stage Spotlight and the other PBS shows that focus on music are finding it hard to compete...These are clips from Legends in Jazz that was not only live in studio but in 5.1 to boot! But it had to be dropped. OK I am off my soapbox now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqA5j9fHzAs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUzu-...eature=related

Sounbwoy · #14 05-15-2010, 03:40 PM

It's getting crazy when you have 56 channels at your disposal and need more...wow