Who wants to suggest me some (more experimental/difficult) classical music?!?

[Terrorstorm]

I just got into Classical Music, and I must say I love it, the more I listen to it. I like classics like Händel, Beethoven and Bach, but what really fascinates me is the classical music starting in the late 19th century and modern American classical music.

My favourites so far are

Gyorgi Ligeti
Bela Bartok
Luigi Nono
Morton Feldman
Samuel Backet
Charles Ives
Strawinsky
Phillip Glass
Alfred Schnittke
Krystoff Prederecky
Leonard Bernstein...

Listening to their music is so much fun. They really blew the limits of classical music. You can find a lot of disharmony and weirdness in their stuff!!!

but I really need some suggestions on composers that fit into this style of classical music.

Maybe here's someone who wants to help me out..

Thanks a lot
bye

[stedtale]

John Stump
Vladimir Ussachevsky
George Crumb
György Kurtág
Alban Berg
Luciano Berio
Alfred Schnittke
Luc Ferrari


I can keep going if you'd like.....

[Terrorstorm]

hey stedtale,

thanks for that quick reply!

I will check these out, and yes.. if you have some more. Tell them to me.
or if you have a list with composers or something like that you could send it to me by mail. markus.steflitsch@gmx.at

i THANK you very much

Markus

[stedtale]

Originally Posted by Terrorstorm

hey stedtale,

thanks for that quick reply!

I will check these out, and yes.. if you have some more. Tell them to me.
or if you have a list with composers or something like that you could send it to me by mail. markus.steflitsch@gmx.at

i THANK you very much

Markus

i've been in a "out there" mood as of late

so look here:
http://www.last.fm/user/stedtale/cha...e=recenttracks

This is what I"m listening to right now...ignore the James Brown and other Soul stuff, there's a good amount of composers you might be interested in there...


Giacinto Scelsi
Steve Reich –
Conlon Nancarrow
Elliott Carter
Francis Poulenc
Leos Janacek
Fred Frith
John Adams
Alban Berg
Arnold Schönberg
Pierre Boulez
Дмитрий Шостакович
John Cage
Arvo Pärt
Krzysztof Penderecki
Ornette Coleman
Charles Ives
Guillaume de Machaut
Alvin Lucier
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Louis Andriessen
Edgard Varèse
Dmitri Shostakovich
Kaija Saariaho
Mauricio Kagel

[stedtale]

John Stump piece:






Might want to move this to the DB side....They might know more too....

[stedtale]

also check out Carlo Gesualdo, not "new" at all....1500's I think, very chromatic, and very beautiful.

[MonetBass]

Do a search on 20th century composers. Good start and good suggestions from all!

Also check out:
Sergei Prokofiev
Samuel Barber
Ralph Vaughn-Williams
Alexander Scriabin
Aaron Copland

[stedtale]

DB side now too

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...03#post4120103

[Terrorstorm]

hi again

Nice, Thanks very much! I will watch that thread!

[Otso]

+1 Prokofiev and Shostakovich!

also Aulis Sallinen.

[lemur821]

Ben Johnston
Arvo Pärt
Sometimes I dig Kyle Gann (who has many an mp3 online, although the performances are often poor).
He's turned me on to several composers, like Conlon Nancarrow and M.C. Maguire.
Harry Partch is someone you should know about.

[PaulCannon]

Sounds like you're more into the experimental wing of 20th century music. You might really like George Crumb.

[lemur821]

Originally Posted by PaulCannon

Sounds like you're more into the experimental wing of 20th century music. You might really like George Crumb.

I'm not a big fan of the way many more recent composers work. Some of them (Crumb being an exemplar, afaict) seem to disdain the idea of rhythm altogether, preferring instead to present a flurry of notes, pause, and then do it again. Probably on another instrument, but the other end of the instrument will suffice in piano works. Some composers elide even the pauses. I don't know if they're making a musical statement I'm just not getting or if they (and classical music hipsters) are just deluded, but I have yet to fall in love with the stuff. The phrasing is just too nonsensical for my tastes.

[Bruce Lindfield]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Olivie Messiaen - he is the one true "great" of the late 20th century and his music is pretty much "out there" !

Turangalila Symphonie
Des Canyons aux Etoiles
Eclairs sur L'au-Dela

These are truly great orchestral works, carrying on the tradition from Mahler.

Mahler's Symphonies are also failry radical and innovative - especially the 9th which inspired Schonberg to go on to pantonal music and the 10th would have been even more so - listen to the Simon Rattle and Berliner Philharmoniker Mahler 10th!

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally Posted by stedtale

Дмитрий Шостакович
...

Dmitri Shostakovich

So good you had to get him in twice!!

[stedtale]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

So good you had to get him in twice!!

oops! I was copying names from my playlist and put the russian in there too...

[stedtale]

Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Olivie Messiaen - he is the one true "great" of the late 20th century and his music is pretty much "out there" !

Turangalila Symphonie
Des Canyons aux Etoiles
Eclairs sur L'au-Dela

These are truly great orchestral works, carrying on the tradition from Mahler.

Mahler's Symphonies are also failry radical and innovative - especially the 9th which inspired Schonberg to go on to pantonal music and the 10th would have been even more so - listen to the Simon Rattle and Berliner Philharmoniker Mahler 10th!

+1 to all of this...and Mahler...wow forgot him....

J. Strauss is good too.

[PaulCannon]

Originally Posted by stedtale

J. Strauss is good too.

Yeah, all those waltzes were pretty out there. Blue Danube is so atonal, it's practically unlistenable.

[AlphaMale]

OH MY GOSH!
NOT ONE PERSON SUGGESTED PAGANINI?!!
Paganini is the greatest of all time.
You should check out:
5th Caprice
24th Caprice

Those are both really good and
Domenico Dragonetti

Most important bassist ever.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Well again... that's hardly late 19th early 20th and not much "disharmony and weirdness in their stuff"!!!