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11-27-2006, 06:17 AM
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Hi there, i was wondering what songs the music for: Black suits coming, Gettin jiggy with it, welcome to miami and men in black (all will smith) come from? The drummer in my band says theres some good bass lines on those songs. I'd love to know what the origional songs were, since they probably sound a lot better.
Thanks a lot
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11-27-2006, 06:39 AM
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Wouldn't you like to know?! | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Atlanta | | | Getting Jiggy - "Greatest Dancer" by Sister Sledge, Bernard Edwards on bass
Men in Black - "Forget Me Nots" by Patrice Rushen, Ready Freddie Washington on bass
Miami - "As the Beat Goes On" - The Whispers
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11-27-2006, 06:45 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | 'Get Jiggy Wit It' (sample= He's The Greatest Dancer/Sister Sledge)
'Miami' (sample= And The Beat Goes On/The Whispers)
'Men In Black' (sample= Forget Me Nots/Patrice Rushen)
'Black Suits Coming' sounds like an original hard rock type groove. No sample that I know of. |
11-27-2006, 06:46 AM
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11-27-2006, 06:49 AM
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11-27-2006, 07:01 AM
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He does seem to pick the best bass lines!!
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11-27-2006, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield He also used Stevie Wonder's "I Wish" for "Wild Wild West" - bass by Nathan Watts..
He does seem to pick the best bass lines!! | That tune also used the bassline from "The Humpty Dance" by Digital Underground. A mix of 2 samples if you will......... |
11-27-2006, 07:14 AM
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11-27-2006, 07:21 AM
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So I remember when Massive Attack sampled a Bill Cobham track for a single that got played on the radio here a lot - "Safe From Harm.
Suddenly I was hearing that fantastic bass and drum track from Leland Sklar and Bill Cobham with Epiano break from Jan Hammer - I was taken back to 1973 and the heyday of Jazz Fusion!!
Almost like hearing the Mahavishnu Orchestra on pop radio... 
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11-27-2006, 07:23 AM
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11-27-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield He also used Stevie Wonder's "I Wish" for "Wild Wild West" - bass by Nathan Watts..
He does seem to pick the best bass lines!! | I wish has a great bassline! bit tricky to play without getting hand cramp  but great nonetheless. 
Cheers everyone, i'll definately check out those songs. |
11-27-2006, 09:34 AM
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11-27-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeIsBass It's really too bad rappers always seem to rip off other peoples' music. How pathetic! | Yeah, rpping them off and listing them as writers on the songs and paying them. 
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11-27-2006, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeIsBass It's really too bad rappers always seem to rip off other peoples' music. How pathetic! | i agree, it is a bit pathetic that whenever they have a song which actually has a melody and some real instruments, 90% is ripped. |
11-27-2006, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck Yeah, rpping them off and listing them as writers on the songs and paying them. | well....i think it was patrice rushen who said that the management did try to rip her off when they asked to use the song.
not to mention martha wash....
that said - if it sounds good and artists get paid, then hurrah.
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11-27-2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LifeIsBass It's really too bad rappers always seem to rip off other peoples' music. How pathetic! | Sure it could be worse, lots of people have gotten into bands like p-funk through all the sampling of their stuff.
Where it really gets bad is when they sample each other - think i remember hearing blue sample Gangsters paradise (Stevie Wonders pastime paradise) a few years ago on the radio.
There'll always be a demand for live music - even if the best (paid) jobs involve playing sampled tracks live. |
11-27-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodchuck Yeah, rpping them off and listing them as writers on the songs and paying them. | I don't really care if they are getting credit as writers and are getting paid. Anytime someone make big bucks off of their so-called "music" but lacked the skills, creativity, musicianship, and originality to create it in the first place they'll get little to no respect from me. That goes for rap, country, pop, whatever.
What's also really sad is that most people don't realize these lines came from someone else. Take Bernard Edwards' line from "Good Times". I guarantee you 99% of the general public would associate that only with rap songs and would have never heard of Good Times. Most rappers are good entertainers and performers. Aside from that they'll get little credit from me.
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11-27-2006, 11:15 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | Not sure about 'most' but many original artists have gotten rich by allowing use of their music. For Rap/Hip-Hop, this is how it's been from day one.....rapping over existing music but for years, the original artist was never credited or paid. Now it's a whole different ballgame! In addition, many rap artists are not musicians and rely on pre-existing music or real musicians. |
11-27-2006, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Perry I wish has a great bassline! bit tricky to play without getting hand cramp but great nonetheless.
Cheers everyone, i'll definately check out those songs. | "I Wish" used synth bass, right? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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