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05-28-2005, 08:20 AM
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I was just recently watching a video i downloaded of Weather Report, They're playing Black Market in Stadthall Offenbach. Where that is.
And there's a part where Zawinul is doing a run on the keyboards, but growing up playing piano, I realized. He's going left and the notes are getting higher, what the hell?
Is there anyone else who has noticed this?
Oh wait sorry, He has 3 keyboards infront of him. He plays the chords on the lower keyboard, and it's the middle one that he is playing...backwards.
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05-28-2005, 10:02 AM
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05-28-2005, 03:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Montreal | | | Zawinul wired the keyboard on an Arp 2600 backwards at one point to change his mindset about technique. No joke!!!
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05-28-2005, 04:53 PM
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05-28-2005, 06:45 PM
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05-29-2005, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by genderblind Zawinul wired the keyboard on an Arp 2600 backwards at one point to change his mindset about technique. No joke!!! | Wow. Being a keyboardist myself, I find this extremely impressive.
Thanks for sharing that!
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05-30-2005, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Geddy_Lee And there's a part where Zawinul is doing a run on the keyboards, but growing up playing piano, I realized. He's going left and the notes are getting higher, what the hell? | I don't know if it is the same video, but I saw this too. Thought I was seeing things at first! I read in an interview that he likes to wire the one keyboard backwards sometimes because it helps him come up with new ideas. I get the idea, but what a freak! Heheh
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05-31-2005, 02:13 AM
|  | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | | I can see the point of this - so in Jazz classes it has often been mentioned how you don't want to fall into the trap of playing "visual" patterns that you see on a fretboard or keyboard.
So - this would make sure that he was playing what he heard, rather than a keyboard pattern.
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05-31-2005, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by genderblind Zawinul wired the keyboard on an Arp 2600 backwards at one point to change his mindset about technique. No joke!!! |
Wow... that's... wow.
*considers playing bass left handed*
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05-31-2005, 05:16 PM
| | | | Pete Cosey, while with Miles, would re-string his guitar in various configurations....& would reek havoc with the guitarists in the audience.
Matt-
Some bass book I have suggests re-stringing &/or playing left-handed to get outta ruts. I have never tried either(thought about them)...another 'trick' is reading music from "right-to-left" or "upside down"...the book is flipped over(not you).
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05-31-2005, 07:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Edinboro, PA | | | Mostly I've been messing with strange tunings... but this all could be considered. *ponder*
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