X JAPAN's use of orchestral backing predates metallica, discuss

[sLapshock]

For those who want to download X Japan version of "Fugue in Gm" by J.S Bach (This 11 minutes rock epic known as "Rose Of Pain" since Yoshiki turns it into a rock version).

It is a live version played with Symphony & Musical Orchestra (Yes X did it way before Metallica did it, and im sure there's some other rock band did it way before X did it) in 1991.

I only rip off Rose Of Pain from the "X with Orchestra" concert. There are other songs like Blue Blood, Silent Jealousy, Endless Rain, Kurenai and Say Anything.

Very interesting, for those who heard "Fugue In Gm" by J.S Bach before, "Rose Of Pain" is based entirely on Fugue In Gm scale and progression, just that Yoshiki remake it into "rock" version with lyrics and several guitar solo's by hide and Pata.

Download it (8mb) below.

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...521FA5512BE0DE

[oversoul]

Good for you, but wrong forum

[Lockout]

Yeah, this belongs in Recordings, just like your last thread.

[john turner]

this is the second thread of yours i've had to move. the next and subsequent threads put in the wrong forum will be deleted.

[Benjamin Strange]

Wow! A rock band playing with an orchestra! What an original concept!

[Matt Till]

"I doesn't matter who did it first, it's who got popular doing it." -Idiots


I'm sure other's did it before these guys.


P.S. I feel that Metallica's S&M album was a flop, the band and the orchestra totally clashed 90% of the time.

[6-3-2]

Well I gotta say most people outside of Japan probably don't know who X-Japan is anyway, and i don't think X Japan is that good anyway, way too cheesy 80's metal for my taste. If you want japanese rock and baroque mixed listen to some Malice Mizer

[Finger Blister]

Originally Posted by sLapshock

and im sure there's some other rock band did it way before X did it) in 1991.

Moody Blues
Days Of Future Passed, 1967.
With the London Festival Orchestra
Conducted by: Peter Knight

[Josh Ryan]

Originally Posted by Finger Blister

Moody Blues
Days Of Future Passed, 1967.
With the London Festival Orchestra
Conducted by: Peter Knight

and it wasn't ****!

[sLapshock]

Originally Posted by Blisshead

and it wasn't ****!

Well, X Japan is legendary Japanese rock band. It is well known to many other country like France, Germany, Brazil and some european countries. They also hugely well known in asia. The thign is they get known after their dissolvement in 1997, before that a little of european country knows them.

The album KISS MY ASS in 1994, the track BLACK DIAMOND is played by Yoshiki (Drummer,Pianist of X/XJapan).

"Final Destination" & "Foreign Sand" is a solo project by Yoshiki and Roger Taylor (drummer of Queen). It was listed in Roger's solo album

In Yoshiki's solo project "Eternal Melody", all the tracks was a work of Yoshiki with George Martin and London Philharmonic Orchestra

Yoshiki's own a record company in Los Angelas name Extacy Records that produced band like Abandoned Pools and many others

".. and any music composed by my friend, Yoshiki" - Paris Hilton

This is some work Yoshiki's done outside Japan. For the guitarist of X Japan, hide. He works with bands like Zilch in USA.

The reason for them not succesfull to breakthrough american market (Loudness did it) is because of their glamish image. Which in Japan known as Visual Rock.

[sLapshock]

Roger Taylor Solo Album

1994

Happiness

1.Nazis 1994
2.Happiness
3.Revelations
4.Touch the Sky
5.Foreign Sand
6.Freedom Train
7.'You Had to be There'
8.The Key
9.Everybody Hurts Sometime
10.Loneliness...
11.Dear Mr Murdoch (not on Japan release)
12.Old Friends
13.Final Destination (Roger Taylor and Yoshiki)

5th September 1994 (UK)

Roger Taylor (drums, vocals, guitar and stuff)
Jason Falloon (guitars)
Phil Spalding (bass)
Mike Crossley (piano and keyboards)
Catherine Porter (backing vocals)
Joshua J Macrae (programming)
Yoshiki (drums, piano and synthesiser on Foreign Sand & Final Destination)
Jim Cregan (guitars on Foreign Sand)
Phil Chen (bass on Forein Sand)
Dick Marx (strings arrangement on Foreign Sand)
Brad Buxer, Geoff Grace (programming on Foreign Sand)
All songs written by Roger Taylor except Foreign Sand & Final Destination, written by Roger Taylor and Yoshiki.

Source: http://www.queencollector.com/Discograhy/rogerdisc.htm

KISS MY ASS

1.DEUCE - Gene Simmons
2. HARD LUCK WOMAN - Paul Stanley
3. SHE - Gene Simmons, Stephen Coronel
4. CHRISTINE SIXTEEN - Gene Simmons
5. ROCK AND ROLL ALL NITE - Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons
6. CALLING DR. LOVE - Gene Simmons
7. GOIN' BLIND - Gene Simmons, Stephen Coronel
8. STRUTTER - Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons
9. PLASTER CASTER - Gene Simmons
10. DETROIT ROCK CITY - Paul Stanley, Bob Ezrin
11. BLACK DIAMOND - Paul Stanley
12. UNHOLY - Gene Simmons

Produced by:
Track 1: Lenny Kravitz.
Track 2: Alan Reynolds.
Track 3: Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley.
Track 4: Cliff Norrell and Gin Blossoms.
Track 5: Gavin Mackillop.
Track 6: Billy Gould.
Track 7: J. Mascis.
Track 8: Nuno Bettencourt. Engineered by Bob St. John.
Track 9: Tom Hamilton and The Lemonheads.
Track 10: Matt Hyde and The Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
Track 11: Yoshiki.
Track 12: Die Ärzte
Recorded sporadically between 1992 and 1994.

Source: http://www.kisscenter.com/kissmyass.html

[sLapshock]

More about X/X Japan can be found here

http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/X/X-Japan.htm

[Josh Ryan]

Originally Posted by sLapshock

Well, X Japan is legendary Japanese rock band. It is well known to many other country like France, Germany, Brazil and some european countries. They also hugely well known in asia. The thign is they get known after their dissolvement in 1997, before that a little of european country knows them.

The album KISS MY ASS in 1994, the track BLACK DIAMOND is played by Yoshiki (Drummer,Pianist of X/XJapan).

"Final Destination" & "Foreign Sand" is a solo project by Yoshiki and Roger Taylor (drummer of Queen). It was listed in Roger's solo album

In Yoshiki's solo project "Eternal Melody", all the tracks was a work of Yoshiki with George Martin and London Philharmonic Orchestra

Yoshiki's own a record company in Los Angelas name Extacy Records that produced band like Abandoned Pools and many others

".. and any music composed by my friend, Yoshiki" - Paris Hilton

This is some work Yoshiki's done outside Japan. For the guitarist of X Japan, hide. He works with bands like Zilch in USA.

The reason for them not succesfull to breakthrough american market (Loudness did it) is because of their glamish image. Which in Japan known as Visual Rock.

I meant as opposed to the Metallica flop.

[sLapshock]

Anyway you all must check out SONATA ARCTICA covering X Japan song "Silent Jealousy" and DRAGONLAND covering "RUSTY NAIL" by X Japan.

[Benjamin Strange]

Not since Major Metal has one so vehemently spammed their favorite band.

[The Golden Boy]

Ironically enough comparing and contrasting to MM's favorite band...