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10-29-2011, 01:16 PM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | | WTB: Demeter pre for Roscoe
Anyone got a spare Demeter on-board pre-amp that will fit in a Roscoe (4-hole layout)?
I'm itching to buy, and I'll probably end up just ordering one from Demeter if I don't hear anthing by the middle of next week... |
10-29-2011, 02:28 PM
|  | Roscoe FANatic | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Jupiter FLA | | | Demeter Pre
I know this will work with Roscoes... 
...fit may be a problem.
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10-29-2011, 02:36 PM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | LOL. My PRS rep lives and dies by that preamp. He's got 3 of them... just in case!  |
10-30-2011, 08:59 AM
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General Manager, Roscoe Guitars | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA | | I had the HBP-1 for YEARS, killer preamp. I really like the on-board Demeter pre too, very clean and quiet. I just like the added "oomph" from the Bart on my fretless, and the added SNARL with the OBP-3 for my fretted.
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10-30-2011, 09:12 AM
|  | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | I sold my backup Demeter several months ago but I definitely say go for it Greg.
As much as I like the sound of the Bart/Bart in my 3006 I've still been tempted to purchase a Demeter preamp to drop in mine .... just to see what it would sound like!
My suggestion if to just order the standard 5 knob Demeter and the concentric 50K w/center detente from Potentiometers - Pots | Jacks | Switches | Shielding
and swap out the bass & treble pots yourself.
You'll get it a lot faster!  |
10-30-2011, 11:54 AM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by JOME77  I sold my backup Demeter several months ago but I definitely say go for it Greg.
As much as I like the sound of the Bart/Bart in my 3006 I've still been tempted to purchase a Demeter preamp to drop in mine .... just to see what it would sound like!
My suggestion if to just order the standard 5 knob Demeter and the concentric 50K w/center detente from Potentiometers - Pots | Jacks | Switches | Shielding
and swap out the bass & treble pots yourself.
You'll get it a lot faster! |
Ah, great advice, Joe! Thanks for that.
I'm actually thinking about trying to stick with the pots from my Audere so that I can continue to use my lovely wood knobs. If I do that, I'll have a spare knob (since I'm going from 4-band to 3-band). I'd also like to try to make that spare knob into a passive tone control, like Mike Lull does all the time. So I'd stack the PTC on top of the mids, and then I'd stack treble on top of bass...
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10-31-2011, 10:51 AM
|  | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | Will it be possible to get a stack pot that one half will work as a tone like that?
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10-31-2011, 01:11 PM
| | Giver of GAS
Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstrike Will it be possible to get a stack pot that one half will work as a tone like that? | I'm not sure... I guess the bottom half would be detented, and the upper half would not be... do they make such a pot? Bah, I hate buying pots... |
10-31-2011, 01:33 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | | I was thinking that the mids portion would have to be 50k, and the tone portion like 250-500k.
I suppose anything's possible, but it may have to be custom, and expensive. I'm fairly sure MEC do stuff like this.
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10-31-2011, 01:43 PM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | Ah, no worries on the ohms. I'm an electrical engineer, and I can change C just as easily as I can change R!
A typical tone circuit goes like 1/RC. If R gets smaller, then C gets bigger to achieve the same cutoff frequency... at least I THINK it's that simple. |
10-31-2011, 01:48 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | I'll be honest, I haven't a clue what you just said... 
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10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
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Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketMusic .... If R gets smaller, then C gets bigger to achieve the same cutoff frequency... at least I THINK it's that simple. | If R and C are together, add a Moon Pie for best snacktime variation. 
I'm with Bill. I don't understand what the heck you just said.
God Bless, Ray
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10-31-2011, 02:36 PM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | R = Resistance (ohms)
C = Capacitance (farads)
Analyze a few circuits, and then you'll be ready for year 2 of electrical engineering study. |
11-02-2011, 02:36 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wake Forest, NC | | | I want first dibs on the Demeter if you find you don't like it!!! |
11-02-2011, 02:45 PM
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Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | | I think I've decided to give my Mike Pope a try again first. That preamp hasn't seen duty since I was playing my Warwick Thumb NT, and that bass was just a bad fit for that preamp. I'm thinking King Koa might give it a much better showing...
After that (if there is an after that), then I'll have to decide if I want to go Bart or Demeter...
So many preamps, so little time... |
11-04-2011, 05:49 PM
|  | Moderator Moderator | | Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Fargo, ND | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by RocketMusic
I'm not sure... I guess the bottom half would be detented, and the upper half would not be... do they make such a pot? Bah, I hate buying pots...
| Yes they do. My old Mike Lull M5V was set up like that.
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11-09-2011, 01:55 PM
| | Giver of GAS
Owner, Rocket Music | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blacksburg, VA | | | Well, I found my Mike Pope pre... it's currently wired for 3 holes, and it's not exactly trivial to break apart one of the stacked pots into two unstacked pots (there's a PCB involved that I'm reluctant to put a lot of heat on). That's a project for another day...
So I've decided to give the Bart NTMB another shot, we'll see how it works with my Nordy J's. I suspect if I don't dig it in my fretted, I might just love it in my fretless with the Nordy DC's... |
11-09-2011, 02:14 PM
| | Providing the Lowend for the High One | | Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bonaire, GA (near Macon) | | Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketMusic
So I've decided to give the Bart NTMB another shot, we'll see how it works with my Nordy J's. I suspect if I don't dig it in my fretted, I might just love it in my fretless with the Nordy DC's...
| I'm thinking that you really dig the Bart this time around Greg.
I fell in, out and then back in love with Bart over the last year.
I guess that the saying, "Absence makes the heart grow fond" is true.
Of course now you've got me GAS'ing for a Demeter too!  |
11-09-2011, 02:30 PM
| | Drunk on power... and beer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Co. Kerry, Ireland. | | Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketMusic Well, I found my Mike Pope pre... it's currently wired for 3 holes, and it's not exactly trivial to break apart one of the stacked pots into two unstacked pots (there's a PCB involved that I'm reluctant to put a lot of heat on). That's a project for another day...
So I've decided to give the Bart NTMB another shot, we'll see how it works with my Nordy J's. I suspect if I don't dig it in my fretted, I might just love it in my fretless with the Nordy DC's... | What's the current control config of the Pope pre?
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11-09-2011, 02:41 PM
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Owner: LilRay's Leatherworks | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between my Roscoe and Leather | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Darkstrike
What's the current control config of the Pope pre?
| Insert Pope (soap ) on a Rope joke here? 
God Bless, Ray
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