bow slippage

jimmyduded · #1 11-04-2007, 06:09 PM

my bow is slipping when playing with it, as in it makes contact with the string but then just slides over, i have put a massive ammount of rosin on, tried cleaning it off, tried cleaning the strings, does anyone know why this is happening

anonymous02282011 · #2 11-04-2007, 06:15 PM

you need rosin -- lots of it -- both on the string and on the bow hair. lots of it.

otherwise, getting in the string is a technical exercise.

jimmyduded · #3 11-04-2007, 06:18 PM

could it be due to old strings? i put alot of rosin on it, atleast i think so

Eli_Upright12 · #4 11-04-2007, 06:38 PM

this could also be a wolftone, I have a couple on my bass that if I bow them just right the bow loses its grip and skips, bounces or glides over the string.

**Basschair** · #5 11-04-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyduded

my bow is slipping when playing with it, as in it makes contact with the string but then just slides over, i have put a massive ammount of rosin on, tried cleaning it off, tried cleaning the strings, does anyone know why this is happening

Does this happen on all the strings? What rosin are you using? New/old bow? New/old hair?

jimmyduded · #6 11-04-2007, 06:58 PM

very crappy bow, carlson rosin , all strings, slightly old bow

**Basschair** · #7 11-04-2007, 07:03 PM

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very crappy bow, carlson rosin , all strings, slightly old bow

Do you know how old the hair is? Is any of it breaking/broken? How much tension is on the hair, and how much can you tighten it?

If it were new hair, I'd say put a layer of Pop's on it to lay a nice sticky foundation. That, or powdered rosin. I could be way off, but even with old strings I would expect some sort of response to bowing.

jimmyduded · #8 11-04-2007, 07:22 PM

i think i just need a new bow, does anyone know where i can get a heavily damaged bow thats good( i can fix it)

accutone · #9 11-05-2007, 08:00 AM

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i think i just need a new bow, does anyone know where i can get a heavily damaged bow thats good( i can fix it)

Jimmy. You don't need a new bow. You need to find someone to show you how to use the bow you have.

anonymous02282011 · #10 11-05-2007, 10:07 AM

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Jimmy. You don't need a new bow. You need to find someone to show you how to use the bow you have.

yea, i think so. I've used the oldest bowhair and the oldest, crappiest strings, but you can still carve a lane if you hit it up right.

jimmyduded · #11 11-05-2007, 01:04 PM

well the only problem is i have a joint disease making it hard to put alot of pressure on my bow, im thinking about switching to german because it may be easier on my wrist, any comments?

JoeyNaeger · #12 11-05-2007, 01:07 PM

You really need to work with an experienced player to get answers on that. There is only so much we can help with without seeing what you are doing.

jimmyduded · #13 11-05-2007, 01:20 PM

my teacher doesnt fully understand the disease so he is not sure what to do, ive heard german is more comfortable though

anonymous02282011 · #14 11-05-2007, 02:27 PM

the joint pressure thing may be an issue. you def need to apply enough pressure, but bow speed is also a factor. i'm no med expert, but i can only advise not hurting yourself! seems obvious, but just for the record. So, work on your long tones.

Ben Rolston · #15 11-05-2007, 02:32 PM

What joint is the problem, the wrist?

If so it's possible that German might help.

jimmyduded · #16 11-05-2007, 02:53 PM

well the problem while playing a bow is i get a clicking noise in my wrist because its over extending and griding on bone( atleast thats my theory) its quite painful, as i think about it the french technique is very unnatural so german might be easier on it

jtlownds · #17 11-05-2007, 04:30 PM

You are carving bass tops and backs with a gouge, but are having trouble using a bow? Doesn't sound right!

jimmyduded · #18 11-05-2007, 05:26 PM

its a different motion, carving is pushing out( unless im doing that wrong too) while bowing is a firm grasp and sliding my wrist back and forth

Aaron M · #19 11-05-2007, 06:26 PM

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very crappy bow, carlson rosin , all strings, slightly old bow

I use Carlssons. It can, when the conditions are right, glaze the hair. When that happens you have to play on it a bit, or a couple swipes more rosin can fix it. Otherwise, you should try getting the bow re-haired.

accutone · #20 11-05-2007, 10:31 PM

I am enjoying this thread. The wonder of the internet. Look at Jimmy's profile. He is 15, enjoys motorcycles as a hobby, has a Juzek and a few Rickenbackers laying around the house, and can't get a bowed sound. Hmmm...