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Old 01-11-2010, 04:34 PM
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Newbe to the Bow

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I've been playing DB for a number of years on the jazz side of things and want to get into the bow.
Is there a big difference in quality between a cheap bow and an expensive bow?
Are there any books on bows that you can reccomend?
Are there DVD's available by top players who show you how to bow?
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:19 PM
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Is there a big difference in quality between a cheap bow and an expensive bow?
**** yeah. You dont have to go crazy on your first bow, but if you have 400-500 dollars that would really help you. Arco is too hard to bother struggling with crap gear. Plus it takes away all your excuses for not practicing enough

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Are there any books on bows that you can reccomend?
Are there DVD's available by top players who show you how to bow?
Art of the bow by Francois Rabbath is a good one. Though you should really really use it in conjunction with a teacher.

I would recommend being with a teacher the first time you pick up the bow. Really helps to get you on the right path.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:34 PM
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+1 for a good arco teacher. A few lessons w/ a classical-heavy player (prof. orchestral/classical bassist or jazz bassist who's had good classical training) would focus a lot on bow hold/grip anyway.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:37 AM
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Good advice

Thanks everybody for your good advice--will check it out.

Mike
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:07 AM
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+1 on getting a classical teacher. I floundered for a while before getting a teacher and then progressed 10X as fast once I did. Also, once you get going, look into joining a community or junior college orchestra. It will whip you into shape! Bowing is really very hard to learn to do correctly without a teacher; far more than any other aspect of playng.
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:05 AM
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I know that's its a cliche, but get a teacher.

Somebody who actually makes their living playing arco, or at least has been trained to do so.

Part of the deal is looking/watching/thinking/practicing all of the moves, angles, concepts that one can absorb. For me, the most signficant pieces, though, are seeing and hearing an actual human make a gorgeous, fluid, powerful sound on the DB, seemingly effortlessly.

It always helped me to see somebody doing, from 5-6 feet away, what I was dreaming of being able to do. Real inspiration, there.

A teacher, too, can provide feedback about little, seemingly insignificant things that we are doing that will cripple our playing forever if left unfixed.

In my experience, there was nothing like sitting in the room with a pro orchestral player or an arco virtuoso soloist. I have been lucky enough to do so and it left an indelible mark on me. Hearing a great player, week after week gets the sound in one's ear and makes success seem attainable. It builds the hope that, maybe one day, we too can sound like that; that these sounds aren't made somewhere in bass heaven, but are produced by actual humans...

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Old 01-13-2010, 01:35 PM
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Thank you everybody for your excellent knowledge----A Classical Pro. I Shall Find.

Mike
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:22 PM
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mike, could you fill out your profile so we know where you're located? you never know, someone on here might know of a good bassist in your area they could recommend for lessons.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:14 AM
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Hi Phil
Thanks for your reply. I live in England, about 10 miles south of Manchester.
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