Possible "Bow-Quiver-On-A-Music-Stand" Solution?

[therealting]

I am thinking this looks very promising...

http://news.harmony-central.com/Prod...m-Stick-Holder

[BCAlbin]

I've done it, it works. Can't sit too far from the stand and gotta reach quick! Sometimes getting it back in there can be an exercise in accuracy too!

-BCA

[Bob Gollihur]

Good idea, I strap a quiver to my EUB bass stands since neither can take a quiver.

[bonaventura]

+1. Remember everything you attach to your tailpiece is a drag on the sound... I alway string my quiver to the music stand, but it requires some finesse to get the bow back in on time.

[CPike]

Originally Posted by bonaventura

+1. Remember everything you attach to your tailpiece is a drag on the sound... I alway string my quiver to the music stand, but it requires some finesse to get the bow back in on time.

Drop in the bucket, the impact of having a quiver tied to the tailpiece. Variations in the environment - temperature, humidity, etc. - as well as abberations in your overall technique have a much more significant effect on the sound of the bass than a piece of leather tied to the tailpiece. It's a miniscule and insignificant price to pay for the convenience of having a safe place to store your bow. In my years of performing in professional orchestras, I've never once heard a complaint or concern about the sonic impact of a bow quiver. The only discussions have been about aesthetics - some people are just opposed to the look of it.

Just an aside, but doesn't a "quiver" hold arrows, not bows?

[Dr Rod]

There might be a way to attach it to your stool as well, it would be more stable than the stand.

[ADissen]

Originally Posted by Dr Rod

There might be a way to attach it to your stool as well, it would be more stable than the stand.

That's what I do. It's always with me and almost as convenient as having it on the tailpiece. I'll try to post a picture when I can.

[therealting]

Originally Posted by CPike

Just an aside, but doesn't a "quiver" hold arrows, not bows?

That might be true in a world where you draw the string of the bow to shoot an arrow in an arc, instead of a world where arco involves pulling a bow to draw sound from a string.

[EggyToast]

Can't you just stuff it in the f-hole?

At home I actually installed a little "bathroom shelf" from IKEA on the wall behind me. Comes out about 3 inches, about a foot long maybe, attractive. It holds my rosin, tuner, mute, some other goodies, and is close enough to the wall that it doesn't get bumped.

What I also did was get a wall/door hook, like the kind people use to hang clothing from, and attached it to the side. I simply hang my bow from the frog. Works pretty well for me.

[CPike]

What do you use to haul that rig to a gig???

Chris

[EggyToast]

Ha, me at a gig! Yeah, it's very much "just at home." But it was a better alternative (and cheaper) than getting a quiver at home. I don't really understand how a fold of leather can sell for $50.

[wineaux]

Well, you could always employ the method I saw at a recent concert. The bassist would grab his bow off the top of his amp, play a few bars of arco and THROW the bow behind him on the stage. I'm talking 15-20 yards behind him. Then one of the roadies would run out and grab it and put it back on top of his amp, to await further abuse. Needless to say, this guy wasn't playing chamber music -- or Chambers' music.

[Bob Gollihur]

Originally Posted by EggyToast

Ha, me at a gig! Yeah, it's very much "just at home." But it was a better alternative (and cheaper) than getting a quiver at home. I don't really understand how a fold of leather can sell for $50.

I had my sister make me one about thirty years ago, exactly that-- a fold of heavy leather. Real pretty, hand carved, but I found that practical use meant cocking the bow at an angle using about the top five inches so I could grab and stow it quickly.

You'll find that the good quality commercial quivers are made of stiff leather and are lined with material designed to smooth travel, so it won't drag on or slow the bow when inserted and withdrawn; that detailed construction justifies their cost IMHO. I checked out others before choosing the one we sell. While the lighter weight wrinkled leather looks cooler in some ways, they are not as practical as the ones that allow Quick Draw McGraw usage -- otherwise, it's El Kabong!

Pardon me for the cartoon references from my childhood.

[wineaux]

Now there's a line in the sand -- separating the quiver users among us who know who Bob was referring to --QuickDraw and El Kabong -- and those who don't.

I own one of Bob's quivers and I agree with his assessment that it's easier to get the bow in and out of it than it is on a homemade one I tried (made by my teacher's wife).

[emilio g]

There is an old youtube video of edgar meyer, ray brown and victor wooten playing where you can actually hear the sound of edgar dropping his bow on the ground as he goes to pizz.

I feel a little weird doing that myself, so if I tie the quiver to my music stand with shoe laces. The leather ties tend to wear out with some use.

If there's no music stand on the gig, I just hold the bow. Its a little awkward at first, but it makes good practice for going between pizz and arco often.

As for tone, my bass does sound a little less resonant with the quiver on the tailpiece. It's REALLY subtle, but I took it on and off one night over and over again to make sure I wasn't imagining things and there is definitely a difference.

Will anyone notice a difference? Nope. But, since I know there's a difference, there's no going back!

[Phil Smith]

Originally Posted by therealting

I am thinking this looks very promising...

http://news.harmony-central.com/Prod...m-Stick-Holder

I just got one and it works okay but would work better if it were deeper since a bow is longer than a stick. You need a band of velcro(rough surface or "hook") so that the base sticks to the stand otherwise the weight of your bow could tip the holder and cause your bow to fall on the floor.

It's a good solution for holding your bow when it's not in your hand, but again kind of shallow and need velcro or some string to secure it at the base.

[TroyK]

I live in the Pacific NW, land of crazy weight concious hikers and tent and kite builders. I started talking to a friend about building a proto-type of a "quiver" that is the type of material that they owuld use for a tent or a kite, with some light stakes that you thread into it to give form and legs. Might even just bunch toghter and the pop open and stand next to you on the stage. They've got a bunch of stuff like that already in the outdoor equipment world.

Crazy?

[mheintz]

Originally Posted by TroyK

Crazy?

Like a fox.