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Old 10-05-2007, 06:48 AM
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Rosin for arco newbie

I've been playing pizz with a swing/jazz outfit and with an acoustic duo for about 5 years now and would like to add the bow to my arsenal.

I've read many of the posts on this board and see lots of varying opinions from what looks like some very experienced players.
Any suggested brand/type for an arco newbie in southern New England? Humid summer/dry (from the heating) winter.
Using an inexpensive french bow to start.
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:35 AM
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After using Carlson and Jade for a long time, I recently got a some fresh Pops from BassRosin.com.

Nice grip, but be careful to not use too much.
Much less mess on top of the bass to clean after each practice session.
Price and convenence a big plus.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:52 PM
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I use Carlson most of the year, and Nymans when it's hot and for solo work. Pops is super soft and sticky, and IMO it makes a big mess. Plus, it will run if left on its side and melt in warm weather. I think Carlson is the all around best choice.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:59 PM
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I absolutely HATE pops' rosin!
I hated it so much that I now use cello rosin because of the extreme stickyness of pops' rosin.

Oh, and I really like cello rosin! It is absolutely great!
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:20 PM
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I'm with Toman. Carlsson for me (or Nyman). Pop's seems nice at first, but I think the reason that you don't see it on the top of your bass is because it's all stuck up in the bow hair. Over time, it just turns the hair into a big solid band of glob. Plus, I always get the sense that I'm hearing the rosin, instead of the bow hair. YMMV.

Carlsson needs to be applied more often, in my experience. For me, that's a plus, because it's like salting the soup; you can always add more, but you can't take it away.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:21 PM
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Cello rosin is nice, especially for solo work. But, I've found it wierd to mix'n'match with regular bass rosin. I might use it exclusively on a second bow, but otherwise I'd only use it on fresh hair. I.E. get a rehair, try the cello rosin, and if you like it, stick with it, otherwise just go with bass rosin.
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:18 AM
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Thanks everyone for the advise. I can see this is a topic that draws lots of varied opinions.

I've actually got some cello rosin on hand now and am thinking something a bit stickier might be good to try. Ordered some Pops to try it out.

I'm sure I'll be back with more questions!
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Old 10-07-2007, 11:27 AM
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Pops is great, you should try it first and then check out the other stuff. Just remember nothing is going to play the bass for you.
I just had some gigs and recording session in Chicago, I was wishing for something less sticky because they are having a nasty heatwave here, they seem to always and nasty something in terms weather everytime I have been here.
In the SF bay area Pops is great.
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Another important thing to keep in mind is the condition of your bow hair. Experimenting with different rosins on the same hair will give different results from just one rosin on fresh hair, and also, hair needs to be replaced on a regular basis. I try to get fresh hair once a year; sometimes sooner, sometimes later, but it's always refreshing. Also, different types of hair will work differently with different rosins, for reference, I get a very fine white, almost silvery hair and use carlson.
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Old 10-08-2007, 07:13 PM
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I use jet black hair and pops.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:56 PM
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I agree with Toman. Replacing the hair on your bow is like changing the oil in your crankcase. You need it refreshed periodically. I personally like salt and pepper hair and Carlsson rosin.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:18 PM
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I think u should use pops. Not because its "better" than anything else, but because with pops u will get a god grip and more easily understand the art of bow-playing. You will develope a , richer, louder and mor controleble tone. Its common that players lerning to use the bow gets the habbit of playing over the string rather than gripping it whith the bow.

When u have got some experiense whith the bow u can start experimenting whith different rosins.

I believe that its a good idea to start whith black bowhair.
The begining of a good tone is a loud tone where you grip the string whith power!

Fun that you desided to start learning the bow. Its fun!
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:39 PM
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Thanks Jordi...and all!

Can see there's some fairly passionate opinions here.

I'm starting on my own from a book..but will be going back to my teacher this winter. Hopefully he won't have a ton of bad habits to fix by then.

After 25 years+ of playing the slab DB has been a real eye opener for the past 5...I anticipate my eye's opening a whole lot more shortly!
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