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Old 11-06-2008, 05:41 AM
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The subtlety of our bows

One of my former teachers, Terry Plumeri, once gave me his #3 bow, a Louis Morizot, out of his remarkable generosity. I was young, going out into the world to play, and he wanted to help. I was broke, as a kid/young adult, so the gift was a mind-blower.

The bow came to me ungripped. Compared to more beautifully made sticks, it certainly never looked like much, but it always worked effortlessly. Sadly, after damaging the tip, I took it to a bad (unmentionable) man who wreaked some crudity on it with crazy glue.

Wanting to be a good steward for the bow, I took it to a wonderful bowmaker, Eric Lane, here in Boston:

http://www.reuning.com/other/our_company/lane.html

I needed to have the tip fixed, and wanted, possibly to have a grip installed.

Eric looked at it critically, as a professional bowmaker, noticed that the stick was kinked at a grain change, slightly twisted, and straighter than usual. He curved the stick a bit more, lessened the kink, made a lovely leather/silver wire grip, elegantly repaired the tip, and then weighted the tip slightly to keep the balance point the same (offsetting the grip’s weight).

Interestingly, now the bow didn’t work well. It felt “dead” and unresponsive. The sound was muted and quiet. Ken Smith, on his “A Late Bultitude #3” thread, advised me to have the tip-weight removed, as first step. I also asked Eric to try to return the stick to its original shape, kink, twist, and all. Here's that thread:

http://smithbassforums.com/showthread.php?t=794

The bow has come back to life and the much of the old sound and feel has returned. Eric Lane understood exactly what had happened and talked about “moving the stick’s nodes of vibration.”

I am strongly considering having the grip removed and the stick straightened a bit more (it is still a bit more curved than before; the “feel” is still a bit less lively than the bow was before all of this started. I am pausing, allowing the bow to get used to the changes, before doing anything else.

So, why relate all of this? Because I was impressed by the experience. I know little about the bow makers’ craft, but I am now more aware of its' subtlety.

Interesting that my Morizot, while not especially beautifully carved, was set up to work well, just the way it was, twisted, kinked, ungripped, and light (126g, ungripped). When we changed a couple of details, this bow, suddenly, just didn’t work.

Anybody else with any experience, changing bows slightly, regripping them, etc. and noticing changes in sound and feel? Maybe repairs that have changed your bows, in one way or the other? Different tones corresponding with different grip types?
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Last edited by Eric Swanson : 11-06-2008 at 06:55 AM.
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Old 11-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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My main bow is a Charles Bazin that I got in a trade for another. When I got it, the tip was broken and it had tinsel lapping and a small worn-out leather, the frog had a couple of tiny chips out of where it meets the stick, and the stick has two tiny knots. When I tried it the knots didn't affect the sound or playability. It pulled a huge sound, grabbed like a saw, but was tip-heavy.

The condition of the frog worried me a little. I was afraid of it deteriorating further so I took it to a reputable shop for repair. When I got the bow back I was amazed to see the tip had been replaced with a new ivory tip and the old lapping had been replaced with a nice new leather and silver wire. The bow was now a little heavier, but balanced perfectly making the weight (146gr.) unnoticeable, making it effortless to play, and I think it focused the sound. When I got it the sound might've been a little unfocused, but it pulled a huge sound and I was willing to overlook that. Now it pulls a huge sound and is nicely focused. It went from being a nice bow to a great bow.

Last edited by David Kaczorowski : 11-06-2008 at 07:12 AM.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:40 PM
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Yeah, I have a Marcel Lepierre. I just recently had some thin leather placed on the stick directly above the frog after having it touched up. I did it primarily to protect the bow from my hand and to protect the makers mark. The wood is gorgious and the work is also very well done. I have enjoyed the bow quite a bit since I got it back, but that could be contributed to my playing on my 2nd bow for a few days and then getting my good one back.
I can't really describe a change in sound seeing as I haven't been playing on my bass. I'm having an extension put on, which could change the sound quite a bit also. I hope I like it or I will have a heck of a time figuring out which variable I don't like.
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