Bass - DOD - Mixer ???!!!

pmasoko · #1 10-18-2008, 01:12 PM

Guys...

I play bass on my church, so far i've been really frustrated cause i cannot expect the output sound i wanted cause my SOUND OPERATOR "stupidly" thinks that it's best to directly plug the bass to DOD which directly goto the Mixer which in my opinion cannot deliver the sound i want , on monitor the sound is too MIDDLE and even when I Slap the bass I CANNOT hear any Rocky-TREBLE sound, AWFUL, and while i was in the audience i really cannot see why this setting works for him,DOUBLE AWFUL..

While I prefer the bass ( ARIA PRO I ) goto the Amp first ( Fender Bassman - which i really enjoy the low sound, PLUS i can set the middle n treble )....

BUT STILL HE INSISTS That his setting is the best.. ( with no reasons explaining )

My Church use LR + 2 Sub-Woofer Output FOH Speakers, with Allen&Heath GL2400 Mixer

Now please tell me who's wrong ??? is it me or the sound operator ????? any of you use " BASS-DOD-MIXER" Setting also ??

Thanks for responding..

TimmyP · #2 10-18-2008, 08:30 PM

That which gives the best sound out front (no bass rig) often is unsatisfying to the bassist on stage. Ask him to split your bass to two channels, so he can EQ your bass independently for better sound in the monitors.

bongomania · #3 10-18-2008, 08:52 PM

Yep- that I agree with. Side note: DOD? Do you mean DI? DOD is a brand of effect pedal.

TimmyP · #4 10-18-2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bongomania

Yep- that I agree with. Side note: DOD? Do you mean DI? DOD is a brand of effect pedal.

DOD makes (or made - are they still around?) all sorts of stuff - pedals, PA crossovers and EQs, ....

bongomania · #5 10-18-2008, 09:06 PM

Yeah, I know that- visit us over in the FX forum sometime- my point was that he was asking about connecting bass-DOD-mixer like that actually meant something, which it doesn't (at least not without further explanation).

pmasoko · #6 10-18-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimmyP

That which gives the best sound out front (no bass rig) often is unsatisfying to the bassist on stage. Ask him to split your bass to two channels, so he can EQ your bass independently for better sound in the monitors.

Sorry TimmyP i'm kinda newbie on sound engineering...so how to do that ?? ( split the bass to 2 channels )

Note : Yes, I mean DI with DOD

bongomania · #7 10-19-2008, 12:05 AM

Most mixers will have one or more "aux sends" on each channel, and they may have one or more submix sections. Either of those methods can be used to create individual monitor mixes- but the person setting up the mixer has to know what they're doing, and the specific method will differ from one mixer to another (depending on specific features and controls). The instructions for your specific mixer are on this page: http://www.glseries.com/gl2400.php

pmasoko · #8 10-19-2008, 01:26 AM

OK...of cors so far the output i can listen to is the monitor ( on stage ) and that's why i say the sound is so awful..it's also because the monitor speaker not so good ( i forgot the brand, but it's not a famous professional brand )... at first i thought it was only on the monitor cuz i realize the sound on the audience may differ ( the LR speaker use "FBT" ), but as i say above when i'm (Also) sit in the audience i dont think the output is great ( not even good ).. so my question is " IS IT NORMAL to directly plug the bass-intrument to DI box - Mixer ??? "

bongomania · #9 10-19-2008, 02:10 PM

Yes, actually, that part is completely normal. If it sounds bad that way, then the problem is in the PA itself or the way the soundman has it set up.

bassman1185 · #10 10-20-2008, 09:03 AM

I think that the biggest thing that you need to understand is that when you're on stage, you can't hear what everyone else in the room is hearing. You just hear the moniters, which may or may not be an accurate representation of your tone through the mains. Ultimately, you're probably going to need to trust your sound guy to make everything sound good. That's his job. Yours is to lay down the groove and do your best to glorify God through not just your playing, but your attitude.

adam precision · #11 11-13-2008, 03:50 AM

Yep, I think the sound guy is right. I think he is only boosting the mids to help the bass int he mix. I know it will sound **** when you hear it on stage on you own, made worse by a crap monitor.
My suggestion would be to use your own bass amp and speaker as a monitor and di a pre eq signal to the pa. Then everyone is happy.