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12-22-2010, 08:32 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cincinnati | | | BBE Sonic Maximizer - where does it go?
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I've had it for years and want to put it into my rack. Right now I'm running like this . . .
board - equalizer - crossover - amp - speakers |
12-22-2010, 08:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Happy Bottom, VA | | | If memory serves me...post eq pre crossover.
edit : per the BBE site this is correct....lots of good info. over there..you can download a manual for your unit.
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12-22-2010, 09:06 AM
| | Bangin' out the bottom end for 44 years! | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Connecticut | | | I think it'll sound best right where it is ... in the closet.
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12-22-2010, 10:00 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: DUBOIS,PA 15801 | | | do you have a link where i could download a manual for a BBE SONIC MAXIMIZER MAXCOM 2 CHANNEL DUAL COMPRESSOR? |
12-22-2010, 11:01 AM
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12-22-2010, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe  I think it'll sound best right where it is ... in the closet. | I would have suggested the closet or the trash...
Never been a fan of a maximizer being used on a PA system, they sometimes can be used on a guitar rig with decent results.
But most of the time they just add un-wanted mud IMO.
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12-22-2010, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe I think it'll sound best right where it is ... in the closet. | +1
Only used these in the studio (post production)
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12-22-2010, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe I think it'll sound best right where it is ... in the closet. | +7
It's a cheap 2 band EQ and a "processor" that employs very questionable science to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
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12-22-2010, 10:41 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN | | | I've yet to hear one fail to make a system sound worse - even when in bypass mode. It might have some utility as a channel insert, but not across the entire mix.
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12-22-2010, 11:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | | | You have to buy Monster cables to plug this unit , then you'll hear the magic that this unit is designed to.
Plugging it with sub quality cables won't bring to life whatever it's supposed to do .
These units need mega $$$$ cable to work. 
..... oh and you also have to use a power conditioner too !
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12-23-2010, 06:13 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virginia Beach, VA | | | Instant EQ in a box...great for marginal PA's but only when used in small doses. Works best in the L & R main inserts. Do not use in an Aux loop and blend as this causes some phasing (?) conflicts. I have a couple and an Aphex 104 equivalent which I'm currently using.
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12-23-2010, 08:54 AM
| | Bangin' out the bottom end for 44 years! | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Connecticut | | Quote:
Originally Posted by fokof You have to buy Monster cables to plug this unit , then you'll hear the magic that this unit is designed to.
Plugging it with sub quality cables won't bring to life whatever it's supposed to do .
These units need mega $$$$ cable to work.
..... oh and you also have to use a power conditioner too ! | Man, this is just so wrong. 
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12-23-2010, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe I think it'll sound best right where it is ... in the closet. | Yup. |
12-23-2010, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe Man, this is just so wrong. | Thanx
It's hard to be more sarcastic than this .....
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12-23-2010, 09:15 AM
|  | keepin' the beat since the 60's | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Studio City, SoCal, USA | | | These do a LOT of EQ with treble boost that varies with the signal up to + 23 dB and a pile of fixed bass boost, so be careful where you put it so you don't clip something.
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12-23-2010, 09:27 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cincinnati | | | As I said, I havn't had it plugged up in a few years (probably 5 or more). What I do recall is that the most notable differences were when we played dancy cd's between sets. Don't recall it doing a whole lot for live music though. I also remember it eating up a bunch of headroom. I just hate to see it sit when I have a few open rack spaces. Is the Peavey Kosmos similar in function to the BBE product? And is that respected any more as a viable tool then the BBE? |
12-23-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyAxe Man, this is just so wrong. | That was sarcasm?!! I just took the kids christmas presents back to re-wire my cabinets with monster cables. 
I guess what they don't know wont hurt 'em. |
12-23-2010, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gio S These do a LOT of EQ with treble boost that varies with the signal up to + 23 dB and a pile of fixed bass boost, so be careful where you put it so you don't clip something. | The biggest problem with the SM's is they have controls which range from 0 - 10...there should be a pinstop at 3. Anything past that point is garbage, sounds processed, and as Gio pointed out, has the potential for clipping.
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12-23-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Zooberwerx The biggest problem with the SM's is they have controls which range from 0 - 10...there should be a pinstop at 3. Anything past that point is garbage, sounds processed, and as Gio pointed out, has the potential for clipping.
Riis | True. I think they're great for bringing vibrancy to recordings, (more on the guitars and vox than the bass) but I rarely go over "2". |
12-23-2010, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by plangentmusic True. I think they're great for bringing vibrancy to recordings, (more on the guitars and vox than the bass) but I rarely go over "2". | Exactly. I stuck a spare in my buddy's karaoke rig: Behringer board, AudioCentron power amp, and two yard-sale Peavey enclosures. Sounds pretty good with canned tracks and accompanying vocals.
I usually A/B the dry and SM processed mixes and adjust the Low Contour so the bass responses are matched.
The SM is frequently touted as nothing but a treble & bass shelving unit, but I see them incorporated within the BBE line of bass preamps which already have dedicated treble & bass controls. For those who've owned or played a BBE, how do the two (EQ and Sonic Maximizer sections) vary in tems of tonal response?
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