Best 12" speaker?

[lennysj]

Ok, so I have been thinking about downsizing my rig for a while now. I want to have something portable that I can take to a small venue and add to it if I need to beef it up. I was thinking of getting two single 12 cabs similar to the Eden D112XLT.

I found a cabinet manufacture here in San Antonio and basically I would have the option to drop in any 12" speaker into the cabinet that they build.

So the question now is, what is the best 12" speaker? I was told the JBL 2206H/J. Any other recommendations?

[MrRumble]

Eminence Delta LF

[Mike Shevlin]

Beyma 12G40

http://www.usspeaker.com/beyma%2012G40-1.htm

[wideyes]

Whichever one I'm currently using

[MNAirHead]

please define best.

[lennysj]

Good point. Ok, IMO most 12's have a brighter sound than say 2x10's. So which 12" speaker has a good warm sound. Maybe something with say a stronger lower-mid range than upper-mid range. But also has enough punch to get through the mix and not get muddy. I think that JBL is rated at 600W continuous which seems pretty high, but that is ok with me.

[jmcgliss]

You really need to check out David Nordschow's new DNS112 design at www.dnaamps.com Serious low end plus detail, high power handling, and not a warmover of the Eden 112XLT.

Just dropping a speaker in a box will not get you "best".

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by lennysj

Good point. Ok, IMO most 12's have a brighter sound than say 2x10's. So which 12" speaker has a good warm sound. Maybe something with say a stronger lower-mid range than upper-mid range. But also has enough punch to get through the mix and not get muddy. I think that JBL is rated at 600W continuous which seems pretty high, but that is ok with me.

good luck getting it to take 600w.

you are generalizing about speakers, btw...you can find bright 12"s and dark 12"s. you can find bright 10"s and dark 10"s. it's all about how it's built and has zip to do with speaker size. also, dropping speakers into boxes can lead to poor results, especially if you don't know anything about tuning your cab and porting methods. at this point, unless you want to devote a few months into learning speaker cab design, you're way better off getting something already made.

[SpamBot]

I'm quite partial to the Emi 3012HO myself. It's loud and doesn't need a big box, also it can perform well full-range unlike its LF cousin.

[Tim C.]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

at this point, unless you want to devote a few months into learning speaker cab design, you're way better off getting something already made.

I've messed around with WinISD trying to come up with a 2x12 using Eminence Deltalite II 2512's, and I can't tell you how many times I thought I finally had it right, only to learn something new and realize I had it so very, very wrong.

I think I'm getting close now, but hell, I've lost track of how many hours of reading, math, and messing about with WinISD I've spent on it. I wouldn't have bothered if I wasn't in college doing nothing all day except listening to music, playing bass and internetting.

And I may end up building this cab, hate it, and sell the speakers and burn the timber. Who knows!

[WayneP]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

you are generalizing about speakers, btw...you can find bright 12"s and dark 12"s. you can find bright 10"s and dark 10"s. it's all about how it's built and has zip to do with speaker size. also, dropping speakers into boxes can lead to poor results, especially if you don't know anything about tuning your cab and porting methods. at this point, unless you want to devote a few months into learning speaker cab design, you're way better off getting something already made.

+1.

I'd suggest just getting an Aguilar 112. Very nice sounding cabinet.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt




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[PawleeP]

wHAT ABOUT A BLACK WIDOW 12 OR A EV 12L? FOR 2-12 AVATAR STYLE BASS CAB AM PLAYING SOME IN DROP D CSHAP AND A LITTLE IN DROP C ALSO.. PP

[craig.p]

Before you even consider a DIY job, you should get the exact internal dimensions from that cab builder, including the precise port dimensions (and port count). The cab tuning will be the limiting favor for any driver you select, so that's why it's important to understand the cab's characteristics first.

You should also ask the cab builder about bracing and internal lining.

[PawleeP]

thanx craig, maybe i will contact avatar