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If you want to go ampless my suggestion is to have a good IEM system to hear yourself. I have yet to hear monitor wedges which sound better than an amp and you don't know what you will find on stage. Of course the mixer must have an aux send you can use.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:53 PM
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I play in one and only one club that can handle the bass properly in the P.A. - I still bring my amp!!

And we play regularly in 15-18 clubs.

Most clubs have poor P.A. systems and can normally only handle the upper registers of the frequencies.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:19 PM
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Around here, most clubs don't have a PA at all, so good bands have their own gear and sound man, or hire a sound company to provide FOH equipment and engineering. Either way, if you want to go ampless, you have that option while maintaining great sound.
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To each there own. Me I'd pack up and go home if that's how the gig was going to go. No miced rig=no fun, no expression.
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For the most part I find that a wedge is never as good as a decent bass cab. I have used them when I had to but it is not my favourite. A good IEM setup however is a suitable and sometimes preferable alternative to having a cab, particularly when bleed from the stage amp is an issue. For this year I plan to do the large majority of my gigs with IEMs.
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I've had trouble with wedges too. If you have a really good system it should be fine. Some of the smaller systems I have a hard time playing in time because of a lag in bass response from the monitors. IEMs are fine though.
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No problems whatsoever, if you have a decent PA. I have done some gigs when I got a lift and could only bring a small rig...and the Di to PA covered it all. You may once in a while have drummers who have issues with that if they don't feel the roundness of a backline, particularly when they don't have back fill or IEMs.
I have done a few gigs with just IEM and they were the best and most accurate gigs I have done, the drummer & I can lock better with IEMs. Have to say in my encounters with various musos, I have had trouble convincing bandmates to use either IEMs, or have the bass feed through a DI with a small monitoring set up on stage. There will always be a faction of those types.
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My band has set up a monitor rack so that no matter where we play, we have the same monitor system and mix. We have 2, 8 channel splitters that we plug into. One send goes to FOH and the main board and the other goes to our A&H mixer for individual monitor mixes. Everything is in 1 rack and can be patched into any PA system. It's been a perfect solution for us.
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My band has set up a monitor rack so that no matter where we play, we have the same monitor system and mix. We have 2, 8 channel splitters that we plug into. One send goes to FOH and the main board and the other goes to our A&H mixer for individual monitor mixes. Everything is in 1 rack and can be patched into any PA system. It's been a perfect solution for us.
A great solution/plan if you gig at venues with FOH provided but you don't want to trust their monitor situation. Lots of touring groups do this. Then you always know your monitor/IEM's will be consistent and there isn't much you can do about FOH anyway.
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We've gotten used to just carrying our own FOH too for the most part. It's funny, we've generally found that even places who do have decent FOH often have poor monitoring. The house engineers love it, one less thing they have to deal with.
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:51 PM
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My band has set up a monitor rack so that no matter where we play, we have the same monitor system and mix. We have 2, 8 channel splitters that we plug into. One send goes to FOH and the main board and the other goes to our A&H mixer for individual monitor mixes. Everything is in 1 rack and can be patched into any PA system. It's been a perfect solution for us.
Is there anyway you have a pic of this setup?

If so, I'd love to take a peek!
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I don't have one handy, but it's really very straightforward. We use 2 ART S8 splitters in a rack with everyone's IEM transmitters. The A&H board sits in the slant top part of the rack. We have 2, 16 channel snakes (no box) out of the back. One goes to the monitor mixer. The other goes to the snake that goes to the FOH for their mix. Each of us have a stereo mix. One "side" is the overall mix, set to each players liking and the other "side" is a direct out of their instrument. The balance knob on the receiver acts as a blend knob so you can always hear yourself, in my case, my bass. It's incredible simple and effective. We haven't met an engineer who didn't love it...
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