E906 for bass amp.

Floyd Eye · #1 03-03-2013, 07:44 PM

Yea or nay?

Floyd Eye · #2 03-03-2013, 07:45 PM

For live use, not recording.

SeaBassTheFish · #3 03-04-2013, 11:51 PM

Not really a great freq response for bass. The low end rolls off right about the same as an SM57. There are better dynamics out there for bass cabs IMO.

walterw · #4 03-05-2013, 01:12 AM

love mine on guitar, would never occur to me to try it on bass.

maybe something like an audix D4, a mic that handles real low end but doesn't have the overly pre-EQ'ed sound of many "kick drum" mics.

SeaBassTheFish · #5 03-05-2013, 09:45 AM

+1 on the Audix D4. Also check out the AKG D112. It's ugly as sin, but it's what's inside that counts:

OP, I know you asked a "yay or nay" question, and didn't ask for other recommendations, but,

you know, it is talkbass after all...

T-Bird · #6 03-05-2013, 10:21 AM

Hi.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaBassTheFish

Also check out the AKG D112. It's ugly as sin, but it's what's inside that counts:

Ugly as sin is an understatement IMHO.

Never liked it for bass, or for BD for that matter.

D12 on the other hand, pure gold for BD, bass, brass or strong vocals.

IME/IMHO anyway

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HARD to find nowadays in a good shape though.

Regards
Sam

testing1two · #7 03-05-2013, 12:03 PM

If you can find an Audio Technica ATM25 or even the new reissue (ATM25LE) they are brilliant for kick drum and bass cabs.

**jmac** · #8 03-05-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bird

Hi.
Ugly as sin is an understatement IMHO.

Never liked it for bass, or for BD for that matter.

D12 on the other hand, pure gold for BD, bass, brass or strong vocals.

IME/IMHO anyway

.

HARD to find nowadays in a good shape though.

Regards
Sam

Yeah, I don't like the D112 for Bass either. The D12 was the shiz. I don't have any idea why AKG discontinued that mic.

Nowadays, if I was going to mic my bass cab I'd use an RE20. Perhaps a MD421.

Floyd Eye · #9 03-05-2013, 06:14 PM

Think I might give the AKG P2 a shot. I can't afford an RE20.

Tuned · #10 03-05-2013, 06:35 PM

The Audix Fusion line is just as good as the D series, just in less sexy packaging. But if you're already running a DI line you should rely on it for the deep bass, the mic needn't be anything special really, any good mic will work well.

If your cab is an 8x10, note that the mic only gets 1/8th of the cab's output, so it's possible to get feedback, especially with the speaker acting as a collecting reflector.

Floyd Eye · #11 03-05-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned

The Audix Fusion line is just as good as the D series, just in less sexy packaging. But if you're already running a DI line you should rely on it for the deep bass, the mic needn't be anything special really, any good mic will work well.

If your cab is an 8x10, note that the mic only gets 1/8th of the cab's output, so it's possible to get feedback, especially with the speaker acting as a collecting reflector.

I will probably use the DI on the back of the CL and then use the mic for the dirt. Cab is a fridge by the way.

T-Bird · #12 03-05-2013, 07:57 PM

Hi.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmac

The D12 was the shiz. I don't have any idea why AKG discontinued that mic.

If You open one up You'll understand why.

Very complicated and heavy construction, makes a SM58 capsule for example looking like a toy and pale in comparison.

Simply too expensive to make.
IMHO anyway

Regards
Sam

walterw · #13 03-05-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuned

If your cab is an 8x10, note that the mic only gets 1/8th of the cab's output, so it's possible to get feedback, especially with the speaker acting as a collecting reflector.

i think if you're getting feedback from a close-mic'ed speaker cab mic with the cab at rock band volume you're doing something really wrong.

TimmyP · #14 03-05-2013, 09:43 PM

PR40 ($225 used), PR30, RE20, D4, 906.

4Mal · #15 03-07-2013, 11:18 PM

Pr-40, D6 if you like the scoop. Senn 421 is very good too. The Sennheiser and the PR40 can be had used in the 225 to 250 range. The Senn 421 is a swiss army knife mic. I have 1 and it get's a lot of use. Should pick up another except that I really want to add a 441 next. lousy on a bass cab I expect but fabulous as an OHD for the classic 3 mic drum setup.

Tuned · #16 03-08-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by walterw

i think if you're getting feedback from a close-mic'ed speaker cab mic with the cab at rock band volume you're doing something really wrong.

Check out a typical mix by a pro tech on an amateur or semi-pro bassist using an Ampeg 8x10. 99% of the time on the cab mic there's a midrange channel EQ set at 800-1.2kHz and at least +6. Sealed 8x10's pound out 100-200Hz but not much below 100Hz or above 500Hz. Standing right in front of it blaring it sounds fine enough, but it doesn't sit in a mix worth a damn. If it's a particularly muddy tone and the mixer tries to get the mids to keep up with the guitars, it has to add those mids without adding more 150Hz mud.

Believe me, it's very possible to get midrange feedback, and it's not the sound tech that's doing something wrong. It's the bassist and cab preventing him from getting it right.