I want the sound of an 8x10 in the size of a 2x10 with an amp i can fit in my pocket

jaysbassspace · #1 02-24-2011, 07:48 PM

any suggestions?

Seriously, i gig 2 - 3 times a week. currently playing a sadowsky rv 5 and a warwick 6 thumb bolt on through an eden time traveler head and 1/12 cabinet. tone is very good, but am pretty sure i can do better. have to be able to carry everything at once and travel by taxi!

anonymous02282011 · #2 02-24-2011, 07:54 PM

the classic Ampeg fridge is tuned fairly high and is a sealed (not ported) cabinet.

I'm not too aware of the current commercial offerings .. but there are some guys on here that might be more in the know ..

I'm sure if you spoke to the right custom builder they could hook you up.

As far as amps go, the new Genz Benz Streamliner or whatever .. the thing with the tube pre sounds pretty darn good to my ears. Plenty of clips on youtubes

walterw · #3 02-24-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysbassspace

any suggestions?

only gig with big state-of-the-art PA systems and in-ear monitors, so you can take the sansamp out of your pocket, plug it in direct, and have your SVT tone in your ears and in the mains.

jaysbassspace · #4 02-24-2011, 07:58 PM

hahaha... Walter, now we're talking. best part is i can probably get my singer to transport all the PA equipment! love it.

Doll · #5 02-24-2011, 08:04 PM

Ampegs Micro VR half stack seems like a likely candidate. 2-10 cabs, not ported. They have been getting a lot of love on TB from what I can tell.

BigOldHarry · #6 02-24-2011, 08:51 PM

I get a very large sound out of my 2x10 - but it's still, at the end of the day, a 2x10 -NOT an 8x10. Physics can not be denied.

waleross · #7 02-24-2011, 08:54 PM

The one 210 cab is nice in my studio but for gigs , I need more. Too bad Basoon cabs are out of business. I had a 210
(110lbs.) which I sold to a friend of mine. That thing put out 500watts and IMO as much as my 810E, or close to .

Lublin · #8 02-24-2011, 08:55 PM

I recommend a Genz Benz Shuttle head, a GK 212MBE cab, and a good gigbag.

For smaller gigs my bass and all cables, picks, pedals, AND Genz Benz fit into my gigbag and I carry the GK cab as its only like 30 lbs or something. Very light.

armywalaby · #9 02-24-2011, 09:34 PM

+1 on the sansamp. Especially going by taxi. Only one case to carry.

TimmyP · #10 02-24-2011, 09:42 PM

acmebass.com cabinets are still the best I've heard.

The modular Markbass head impresses me more than anything I've heard save a good preamp and a Crown K1.

JimmyM · #11 02-25-2011, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Doll

Ampegs Micro VR half stack seems like a likely candidate. 2-10 cabs, not ported. They have been getting a lot of love on TB from what I can tell.

i love mine, that's for sure. if you can deal with 150w @ 8 ohms, it sounds about as close to my vintage svt rig as a 210 and ss amp possibly can.

**DougD** · #12 02-25-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jaysbassspace

any suggestions?

Seriously, i gig 2 - 3 times a week. currently playing a sadowsky rv 5 and a warwick 6 thumb bolt on through an eden time traveler head and 1/12 cabinet. tone is very good, but am pretty sure i can do better. have to be able to carry everything at once and travel by taxi!

It just aint gonna happen. You cant get around the laws of physics. No 210 or 112 is going to put out the massive tone and volume of a 810. But there are some darn good 210's out there. I'm thoroughly impressed with my GK neo 210. It's not the Talk bass cab of the week, but it gets loud and handles the lows almost as good a a 410. And it won't break you either. If you want to stay with Eden why not try out the 210xst?

stiles72 · #13 02-25-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Doll

Ampegs Micro VR half stack seems like a likely candidate. 2-10 cabs, not ported. They have been getting a lot of love on TB from what I can tell.

+1 Jammed on a vintage '78 SVT & 810 recently, and it sounded like a big Micro VR. Or does the Micro sound like the vinatge SVT? Either way- that's your ticket

prd004 · #14 02-25-2011, 07:24 AM

And I want a girl who's like Jenna Jamison in the bedroom, June Cleaver in the kitchen, has a trust fund like Paris Hilton, doesn't complain when I play my bass all day, and likes football.

Sometimes you can't have what you want.

Sizlack · #15 02-25-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by prd004

And I want a girl who's like Jenna Jamison in the bedroom, June Cleaver in the kitchen, has a trust fund like Paris Hilton, doesn't complain when I play my bass all day, and likes football.

Sometimes you can't have what you want.

4 outta 5 aint to shabby though...mine got it all but the trust fund.

rockstarbassist · #16 02-25-2011, 07:49 AM

Impossible. There are "loud+small" boxes out there, but I absolutely hate 'em.
Nothing can match a fully powered 412 or 810.

Wes Whitmore · #17 02-25-2011, 06:06 PM

Since you said sound, and not volume, go SVT210AV if it's the ampeg 8x10 you are trying to sound like. Volume? Multiple 2x10s.
Wes

walker rosewood · #18 02-26-2011, 12:19 AM

The sansamp BDDI or para-driver are great pre-amps and will fit in your pocket.

I saw this recently and it's got me curious... the EHX 44 magnum. It's a power amp that is the size of their nano series. 8 or 16 ohm. $145 retail. I wonder if running a BDDI into the 44magnum, then to the cab, would give you a freestanding (no PA) SVT substitute that is essentially only the size of your cabinet.

http://www.ehx.com/products/44-magnum

Speaking of cabinets, I'd suggest looking into the Orange Isobaric cabs. One speaker is behind the other one. There is a 2x10 in the size of a 110 cabinet, or a 410 in the size of a 210 cabinet. Folks either love em or hate em, and there are skeptics, but it looks like a cool idea.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Orange-A...79-i1568683.gc

I don't have personal experience with the 44 magnum or the Orange stuff, I'm just making suggestions to explore. BDDI > 44 Magnum> Orange SP210.... did I just discover the most brutal tiniest set up ever? Oh the things I'd do if I wasn't broke.

iridiumrocks · #19 02-26-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by walterw

only gig with big state-of-the-art PA systems and in-ear monitors, so you can take the sansamp out of your pocket, plug it in direct, and have your SVT tone in your ears and in the mains.

+1 This is what I do. VT Bass direct into the board with IEMs and let the PA do the heavy work.

steveksux · #20 02-27-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DougD

It just aint gonna happen. You cant get around the laws of physics. No 210 or 112 is going to put out the massive tone and volume of a 810. But there are some darn good 210's out there. I'm thoroughly impressed with my GK neo 210. It's not the Talk bass cab of the week, but it gets loud and handles the lows almost as good a a 410. And it won't break you either. If you want to stay with Eden why not try out the 210xst?

He's trying to get the tone, not the volume.... no laws of physics violated to get the tone.

Randy