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michaelkoss 02-09-2013 10:21 AM

Keeping P.A. Cables Organized
 
My band is building out our PA system and I am amazed at the number of cables we have to maintain. Right now, we have everything thrown into two large Rubbermaid-type boxes. When I'm looking for a specific cable, it's a pain to find it.

How do you keep your PA organized for easier transport and setup?

MrDOS 02-09-2013 10:43 AM

Tub 1: mic cables
Tub 2: speakon speaker cables
Tub 3: 1/4" and adapter cables

Wrapping each cable neatly after each gig makes setup a the next one a snap!

Stone Soup 02-09-2013 10:46 AM

I use the Rubbermaid solution, as well. I just bought a bunch of velcro straps and I use them on all the mic and patch cables. I bought the type that stay attached to the cables. Works well for me.

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Originally Posted by MrDOS (Post 13855050)
Tub 1: mic cables
Tub 2: speakon speaker cables
Tub 3: 1/4" and adapter cables

Too many tubs. It's just more to carry in and store during the gig. I get mic cables, patch snakes, patch cables, speaker cables and a fan snake in one tub.

Andyman001 02-09-2013 10:49 AM

Colored electrical tape on or right behind the plugs

jonas_24112 02-09-2013 12:20 PM

For large PA rigs with tons of mic cables, a rolling garden hose reel works wonders. I've seen many pro sound guys use these. Just connect cables end to end as you roll em up and unwind as you need them. Otherwise, $5 will get you 50 Velcro wraps on eBay.

ggunn 02-09-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jonas_24112 (Post 13855495)
For large PA rigs with tons of mic cables, a rolling garden hose reel works wonders. I've seen many pro sound guys use these. Just connect cables end to end as you roll em up and unwind as you need them.

Second that, even for smaller PA's. I use those orange plastic extension cord reels to the same effect. Reels are a great way to store mic cables. When we're done playing we move out all the other gear and leave the mic cables for last. Two guys standing at the snake head, one guy reeling and the other guy feeding him cables and keeping a little tension on them, can roll up a couple dozen mic cables in a couple of minutes.

Floyd Eye 02-09-2013 04:46 PM

Most of the cables stay in whichever rack they originate from. Plus I have masking tape on each end of each cable labeling where it belongs. No tubs. One case with spares in it.

gearhead1972 02-09-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyman001 (Post 13855075)
Colored electrical tape on or right behind the plugs

This is what I do, each cable has 2-3 colors on it, the first color closest to the plugs is the length. White for 20ft, Orange for 25ft, Yellow for 30ft, Red for 50ft, then the second and third colors separate them in each length. They all get also get my initials and the actual length in paint marker on the ends, then Velcro, finally they go in a 29" rolling suitcase.

michaelkoss 02-09-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gearhead1972 (Post 13856657)
They all get also get my initials and the actual length in paint marker on the ends

I hadn't thought of that. It's a wonderful idea!

Munjibunga 02-09-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDOS (Post 13855050)
Tub 1: mic cables
Tub 2: speakon speaker cables
Tub 3: 1/4" and adapter cables

Wrapping each cable neatly after each gig makes setup a the next one a snap!

Good. Now get yourself several colors of ¾-inch heat-shrink tubing and put different colors on each length for quick identification. Then buy a roll of ½-inch Velcro webbing and cut it into 6-inch lengths to wrap the cables. This may seem a bit anal, but my cables always work and I always know what I'm grabbing. I keep all the mic cables and power cables in a small rolling suitcase.

The picture below shows: 25-foot - red, 15-foot - blue, 10-foot - yellow, 5-foot - green. I have 50-footers that are also yellow. You can put your initials on the tubing with a Sharpie.


Munjibunga 02-09-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andyman001 (Post 13855075)
Colored electrical tape on or right behind the plugs

Naw. It gets gooey and comes off. See above.

Munjibunga 02-09-2013 07:05 PM

It's a good idea to have one of these, too.


thesaddpenguin 02-10-2013 07:48 AM

I was in a band that placed individual cables into individual ziplock bags.

tbirdsp 02-10-2013 10:31 AM

Pretty much been covered here, but my experience:
I used to run sound and have a large PA - did the rolling hose reel thing. Worked great, although IMHO it puts a pretty severe bend on the cables where they go into the XLR plugs. I never had many failures though.
The colored heat shrink is a good idea - agree that tape gets gooey and makes a mess after a while.
I have a smaller PA now and am using the attached velcro straps. One thing I have noticed though - I put the straps down on the female end that plugs into the mixer (would look stupid hanging off of the mic, right?) - all the damn straps stick to each other and make it a pain to separate them at the end of the gig. I might go back to a hose reel.

michaelkoss 02-10-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Munjibunga (Post 13857037)
Now get yourself several colors of ¾-inch heat-shrink tubing and put different colors on each length for quick identification.

I've been searching for 10 minutes trying to find a good supplier of 3/4" heat-shrink tubing in different colors. Apparently, my Google-foo is lacking today. Where can I find the tubing?

michaelkoss 02-10-2013 11:48 AM

One more question: will a hair dryer be sufficient or do I need to buy a special heater?

gearhead1972 02-10-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelkoss (Post 13859495)
One more question: will a hair dryer be sufficient or do I need to buy a special heater?

http://www.parts-express.com/cat/hea...ble-tubing/569
Yes a hair dryer will work, just takes a little longer

craig.p 02-10-2013 12:18 PM

A band I used to work for long ago bolted closet rod brackets to the inside of a black storage trunk, the kind that looks like a precursor to the wood rackmounts with the metal latches and such. I think they call them collegiate or something. They used a 1/8 lauan sandwich on either side of the trunk wall for additional strength because the trunk walls weren't tough enough on their own. Roll cables, install onto closet rod, fit closet rod into trunk, close+latch lid, QED.

gareth dunster 02-10-2013 08:44 PM

I use the garden hose reels for xlrs. One reel for each length. Keeps the cables in very good shape and takes up minimal space. Also running them out is a breeze. Anyone got any easy way of using reels with guitar leads?

michaelkoss 02-10-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gareth dunster (Post 13861819)
Anyone got any easy way of using reels with guitar leads?

Maybe you could buy a few 1/4" female to 1/4" female adapters for the sole purpose of connecting the leads together to reel them up. Pretty cheap at monoprice:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2


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