LS9 guru needed

Matthew P. Morris · #1 05-29-2011, 08:25 PM

I operate a 32 channel LS9 for a community theater and for the life of me can not figure out how to send a reverb effect to the monitor speakers. I have googled to no end but can't get a easy to understand answer. Any help would be awesome.

fokof · #2 05-29-2011, 08:33 PM

-assign reverb output to stereo faders (p158 - 1 - 6 )
-send FX to desired aux from that same stereo channel (p82 - 1 )

Matthew P. Morris · #3 05-29-2011, 08:56 PM

Wow okay. Thanks. For the 2 instructions. I will try next time I'm in the theater. As of now the output is to the first of four stereo knob on the right side of the board. will that complicate things ?

TimmyP · #4 05-30-2011, 12:57 AM

I've never had that need so I've never looked at it. But according to the diagram in the manual, the stereo ins can be dialed up in any aux just like your instrument channels. Just make sure that it's not also routed to the L/R (unless you want it to be of course - but I'd prefer separate verbs for House and Monitors).

One must ask: Why do you want reverb in the monitors? In theater, the only thing in the monitors are tracks, or live stuff that's performed off stage - never the actors, and never FX (unless they need it for a timing cue).

Matthew P. Morris · #5 05-30-2011, 07:44 AM

Thank you for the info. There theater is an open house for anyone in the area to rent it. So I will get dance recitals, school plays, an occasional bands. The last two bands wanted verb in the monitors for there reference. And I could not do it. But i agree with Seperate verb than the house That's a good idea I will go there tomorrow and try

TimmyP · #6 05-31-2011, 12:47 AM

Gotcha. Our theater is the same way - whatever folks want to bring in. We have lots of plays, and lots of rock shows.

IMHO reverb in the monitors is a bad idea. 1, it reduces gain-before-feedback. 2, it can hide subtle pitch problems - the singer can't fix it if he can't hear it. 3, it steals an FX from the house mix. I like to have two verbs (a long and a short) and two delays (a long and a short). Of course at our place the room provides more than enough reverb ;-( , but I still make use of the delays on rock shows. Do you have the UDKs set up for tap tempo and send/return muting?

TP Audio's LS9 Console File

Matthew P. Morris · #7 05-31-2011, 10:21 PM

I hear ya on the negatives of Verb in the monitors, but it's come up three times since I've been there. Our room is to dry , it sucks up any verb like crazy. So if the artist wants verb in the monitors I have to deliver it so they can perform better. Also I do not have the UDK's set up as a tap. Is it crazy hard to do? I have the Manual an have watched every video on you tube so far. but nothing show you how to set the verb and physically show you what knobs/ fader to push. I'll be back there in a few days to try out some suggestions. Either way it must happen. It seems easy but I've never seen it done.

TimmyP · #8 06-01-2011, 03:13 AM

You might download my console file (link in previous post) and look at it in Studio Manager to see what I've done. And of course if you like it, you can load it into your console.

Matthew P. Morris · #9 06-06-2011, 10:16 AM

I know you can save files and such. But I am not familiar with studio manager

Matthew P. Morris · #10 07-10-2011, 11:35 AM

I will finally be at the theater today for a rock show, i will try the suggestions. thanks for the help, *crosses fingers*

stingraysvt · #11 07-15-2011, 07:59 AM

not that I've ever done it before on mine, but the Stereo returns (default efx returns) are on the far right while you have the mon mix pulled up, you can just turn the encoder knob up and it will be in that mix.

Matthew P. Morris · #12 08-15-2011, 11:49 AM

Sorry. I am not at the theater to often these days. Business is slow. I am here. And I have mix 1 cued in the phones. And I am turning the ST IN 1 knob up. It's purple But I don't hear it. Do I have I send and thing on the actuall ST IN 1
Or will that be double monitoring the reverb?

Matthew P. Morris · #13 08-15-2011, 11:53 AM

Right now the verb is. Input 13. And output ST In 1.

fokof · #14 08-15-2011, 01:34 PM

Stuff to check:

Do you check the reverb with your talkback mike ?

-Plug a mike it in a normal strip to check the reverb.
-Check if the send to the FX is pre or post , usually FX should always be post , be sure that your talkback fader is up
-The FX return send to monitor is pre/post ?
-Everything is Un-muted ?
-IN the Monitor/Solo section be sure to select PFL

Matthew P. Morris · #15 08-17-2011, 09:58 PM

Did i mention i will paypal someone $20 if they can walk me through it!

Yes sir. I've checked all of that.