Monitor Systems

[KingRazor]

Does anyone know of any other company that makes an IEM system like this one?

Roland Systems Group U.S. - Product: M-48

The features of this unit are great, but it's a bit pricy. If there are other options like it, I'm interested.

[MNAirHead]

Originally Posted by KingRazor

Does anyone know of any other company that makes an IEM system like this one?

Roland Systems Group U.S. - Product: M-48

The features of this unit are great, but it's a bit pricy. If there are other options like it, I'm interested.

I've seen a few the magazine that has a ton of options like this is "technology for praise and worship"

When I post a passthrough mixer and wireless this solution gets you 99% there as most monitor requests are for "more me"

Road acts commonly use a recording interface for this functions

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by MNAirHead

I've seen a few the magazine that has a ton of options like this is "technology for praise and worship"

When I post a passthrough mixer and wireless this solution gets you 99% there as most monitor requests are for "more me"

Road acts commonly use a recording interface for this functions

The thing I like about the one I posted is that the musicians don't have to ask the sound guy to adjust their ears, they can just do it themselves.

[fokof]

Originally Posted by KingRazor

Does anyone know of any other company that makes an IEM system like this one?

Aviom
Aviom Home

[JKos]

The M-48 has an ambient mic built in, that's cool.

- John

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by fokof

Aviom
Aviom Home

How much do one of those systems run? We would need at least 8 mixers.

[JKos]

Each M-48 is about $1,000 and then you need other equipment to go with them which would be at least an S-4000D for $1,600 and an S-0816 for $1,700. So that would be at least $11,300 for a system with 8 mixers. Ouch!

Add an S-1608 for $1,700 and you would have a full digital 16 send, 8 return snake.

Someone really needs to come up with a system that normal, everyday bands can afford.

- John

[JKos]

The Aviom system would be about $6,300 for eight A16II mixers, an AN-16-I input module, and an A-16D distributor.

- John

[JKos]

BTW, for anyone reading this thread and thinking the cost of these systems is just ridiculous, check out the JamHub products. A system that provides individual mixes for up to seven musicians is only $500. Very cool.

It's on a whole different level than the Roland and Aviom systems discussed above, but actually very capable and easy to use. They talk about practice use but they have been used live as well. If you had a snake with enough returns, you could send each person's feed back from the board to the Jamhub and then each person on stage could make their own monitor mix and feed that to in-ears, wedge, etc.

- John

[WalWarrior]

Originally Posted by JKos

BTW, for anyone reading this thread and thinking the cost of these systems is just ridiculous, check out the JamHub products. A system that provides individual mixes for up to seven musicians is only $500. Very cool.

It's on a whole different level than the Roland and Aviom systems discussed above, but actually very capable and easy to use. They talk about practice use but they have been used live as well. If you had a snake with enough returns, you could send each person's feed back from the board to the Jamhub and then each person on stage could make their own monitor mix and feed that to in-ears, wedge, etc.

- John

Our act uses the TourBus edition for rehearsals and it kicks ass. I will investigate what it will take to get this rigged into a live performace setup. Great idea!

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by JKos

Each M-48 is about $1,000 and then you need other equipment to go with them which would be at least an S-4000D for $1,600 and an S-0816 for $1,700. So that would be at least $11,300 for a system with 8 mixers. Ouch!

Add an S-1608 for $1,700 and you would have a full digital 16 send, 8 return snake.

Someone really needs to come up with a system that normal, everyday bands can afford.

- John

Luckily my curch has an M-400 Mixer with two S-1608 digital snakes already. So we wouldn't have to buy nearly as much extra hardware as anyone starting from scratch with the M-48 system.

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by JKos

BTW, for anyone reading this thread and thinking the cost of these systems is just ridiculous, check out the JamHub products. A system that provides individual mixes for up to seven musicians is only $500. Very cool.

It's on a whole different level than the Roland and Aviom systems discussed above, but actually very capable and easy to use. They talk about practice use but they have been used live as well. If you had a snake with enough returns, you could send each person's feed back from the board to the Jamhub and then each person on stage could make their own monitor mix and feed that to in-ears, wedge, etc.

- John

That's kind of cool, but that wouldn't really be any better than what we have now.

We have a 16(?) channel board on the stage that provides an IEM mix for about half of the band (drums, keys, and synth).

Then we have four wedge monitors on stage (we only use 1-2 generally though) for background vocals and/or acoustic guitar.

The lead singer has a wireless IEM pack that is controlled from the FOH board.

The electric guitar players (there's always at least one, sometimes two) and the bassist use amps for their monitors.

We want to move to an amp-less stage. So we would need a personal mix for drums, bass, two keyboards, three guitars, lead vocals and background vocals. That's at least 9, assuming we don't want to give each of the background vocalists their own mix.

[stingraysvt]

MyMix is a new one that is out and looks really cool, you could almost get away without a console with those

[MNAirHead]

Originally Posted by KingRazor

The thing I like about the one I posted is that the musicians don't have to ask the sound guy to adjust their ears, they can just do it themselves.

Before I go into options...

What is your budget?

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by MNAirHead

Before I go into options...

What is your budget?

No budget at all right now. But once we have decided on a monitoring system, then we can save up for it.

If you're looking for a "maxium amount we'd be willing to spend on an IEM system", let's say $10,000.

[KingRazor]

Originally Posted by stingraysvt

MyMix is a new one that is out and looks really cool, you could almost get away without a console with those

Now those look pretty interesting. If they're cheaper than the Aviom or M-48 systems I'd be interested.

[chrisp2u]

Originally Posted by KingRazor

Now those look pretty interesting. If they're cheaper than the Aviom or M-48 systems I'd be interested.

They run about $650 per unit. What else might be required for it depends on the rest of your setup (whether you're using a console or splitter, etc.) and how it needs to be integrated into that...

Application Examples - myMix - Personal Mixing & Multi-track Recording

Another option would be the Hear Technologies Hearback system. I've been using this in my bands practice space for the past 5 years or so. Much cheaper than the Aviom system (prob around $1800 for 6 mixes). Though not quite as many features as the Aviom, it's easy to integrate, works well and sounds good. Their tech support is great too, FME.

I've looked into the MyMix, and it's a nice system for sure... just not worth the price of the upgrade for my use. Pretty slick interface though and some other interesting features. I've talked to some of the guys at the company and they seem quite responsive as well. If I were to upgrade, I would definitely go MyMix over Aviom even if price wasn't a factor.
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Chris

[JKos]

How much is the IEX-16L for the MyMix?

- John

[KingRazor]

So, between the M-48s, the Avioms, and the MyMix, which one would be cheapest?

Assuming: We already have a digital board and digital snakes, and we need 10 personal mixers.

[fokof]

I forgot , there is also this system:


iLive mixrack
And you give each musician one of these:
remote controller

(idr16 is around 5K$ remotes around 500$ each)

The Roland system looks neat