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07-09-2011, 04:29 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento CA | | | More Pay for owning the PA,Trailer and Sound man??
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Should a band member get paid more for owning the PA,Trailer and setting all of it up and running the sound while playing?? |
07-09-2011, 04:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada | | | Yes
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07-09-2011, 04:41 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Michigan | | | Yes but I wonder how he can do both at the same time, the stage is not a good place to run the sound from. |
07-09-2011, 05:01 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK | | Quote:
Originally Posted by pedroims  the stage is not a good place to run the sound from. | Not entirely true. 
Also, yes, band members supplying PA should get payed more. Especially if another band uses said PA on the night.
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07-09-2011, 05:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Huntington | | | Yes. It is difficult work. I spent many years driving to the gig early, setting up the PA tweaking it for the room before the rest of the guys ever showed. Then I would do the sound with a 100ft cord, so I could play and listen to the PA. Then it was back to stage to make any adjustments and repeat. When gig started everything was dialed in and it was a need to watch levels. It is possible to mix from stage, difficult but possible. |
07-09-2011, 05:10 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland | | The title implies that you own the soundman. 
I say yes, you should be paid more.
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07-09-2011, 05:32 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by FuzzBoxVoodoo Should a band member get paid more for owning the PA,Trailer and setting all of it up and running the sound while playing?? | Yes. Substantially more. |
07-09-2011, 06:27 AM
|  | Say something once, why say it again? | | Join Date: May 2011 Location: Saint Johns, Michigan | | | Absolutely, no question.
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07-09-2011, 07:15 AM
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Endorsing Artist: Kohlman Bassworks | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hampton Roads, Virginia | | | Yes. |
07-09-2011, 09:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento CA | | | We don't make alot on our shows so im not sure that I even want' to sound greedy or cause any hard feelings over a few dollars,we are all in our 40's except for the singer who is 25 and have families with careers that support us financially so none of us are doing it for the money but it sure would be nice to get a little extra play money for sure.
They do help with the unloading and loading at the gig and we all get along great so I can't complain about any of that. |
07-09-2011, 09:18 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brooklyn Park, MN. | | | You own a sound man?
I thought that was outlawed after the civil war?
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07-09-2011, 09:36 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK | | Quote:
Originally Posted by hdracer You own a sound man?
I thought that was outlawed after the civil war? | Remember, sound engineers and lampies (lighting techs) only rate about half a notch above cattle and other livestock. Grab yourself one today! 
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07-09-2011, 10:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Roswell, GA | | | That can be a tough subject to address. Does only your bass rig & the PA go in the trailer, or does everyone's gear go in? You might want to present it as overhead/extra gas $/transportation cost or something like that. Maybe take 10-15% off each gig 1st, then split the rest evenly.
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07-09-2011, 10:26 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento CA | | PA System,Lights,Drums and Bass rig (Aguilar TH500,GB Neox212t or GS-412) so never more than 2 pieces for the bass rig.
The PA is.... 8 space rack with 16 channel board,2 JBL JRX 215's,2 Yamah 112SV's,2 stage monitors,1 Genz Benz 18 Sub mic stands and 2 light tree's.
I sold my Ford Explorer and now tow the trailer with my 2500hd chevy truck with a 8.1 engine that gets around 9 mpg. Quote:
Originally Posted by Never_grew_up That can be a tough subject to address. Does only your bass rig & the PA go in the trailer, or does everyone's gear go in? You might want to present it as overhead/extra gas $/transportation cost or something like that. Maybe take 10-15% off each gig 1st, then split the rest evenly. | |
07-09-2011, 11:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada | | | I would say at the very least, it would be fair to cover 100% of your gas costs.
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07-09-2011, 11:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sacramento CA | | | I was curious if there is some kind of industry standard but it sounds like there is not. |
07-09-2011, 11:13 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Melnibone | | | Yes, especially if you pay for upkeep, repairs, etc... on the trailer and PA. |
07-09-2011, 11:15 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Twixt a rock and a hard place | | | That's a big 10-4 good buddy... He gets extra pay... |
07-09-2011, 12:34 PM
|  | Total Hyper-Elite Member | | Join Date: May 2000 Location: Groom Lake, NV | | | In previous bands, I owned the PA and ran the sound (and set it up), but I've never charged the band. But I would now. Probably at least $50 extra, but $100 would be more realistic from a value standpoint.
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07-09-2011, 12:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Here we are... | | | If he is getting help from the rest of the band setting up,pay for his gas.
If he sets up and tears down the P.A. by himself,he deserves much more.
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