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Old 03-03-2011, 03:55 PM
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Hello everyone, Hope you can help; Bass sounds muddy
Have tryed all the adjustments , no can do..
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:17 PM
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Give it a clean?
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:21 PM
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use a high powered water hose.......

we need a little more info.....

active? passive? flats? rounds? pizza? huh?
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:25 PM
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What kind of bass do you have? What amp?
Your strings could be "dead". The pick-up height may need adjusted upwards.
Your amp settings may be too bassy. Possible pick-up and/or pot problems.
You need to be a little more specific.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:38 PM
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yeah check your pickup height
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Take a little out of the 150-250Hz range. Sweep that to find what works best.
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Old 03-04-2011, 05:27 AM
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I'm having mud problems too. I run a MIM Fender Jazz though a mesa boogie walkabout scout . I just put new custom shop 60s jazz pickups and Marcus miller dr strings on the bass. How should I set my tone/mod my bass?
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:52 PM
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Muddy sound is often the result of an abnormal peak in response. It can be caused by the speaker, the room, the particular instrument, or a combination of all three.

The best way to deal with it is with a parametric EQ. First set all EQ on your pre amp to flat, then dial in a 1/3-octave filter on the parametric EQ, and boost ~6 to 8 dB. Strike a note on the bass – an open E string or fretted at G, for instance, and sweep the EQ’s frequency knob from 30 Hz upwards. When the frequency knob hits the right spot, you’ll hear the sound really “jump” out in a big way.

If this happens, you’ve found the “hot spot” that’s probably causing the muddy sound (it will probably be somewhere below 200 Hz). Adjust the EQ gain knob for back down to a negative value, just enough to stop the “boom” and tighten up the sound. It’ll probably be somewhere in -6dB range, although it could well be more or less than that. It might also help to experiment with the bandwidth setting as well.

This excercise can also be accomplished with a graphic EQ, but not nearly as accurately.

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Old 03-05-2011, 10:10 AM
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Muddy sound is often the result of an abnormal peak in response. It can be caused by the speaker, the room, the particular instrument, or a combination of all three.

The best way to deal with it is with a parametric EQ. First set all EQ on your pre amp to flat, then dial in a 1/3-octave filter on the parametric EQ, and boost ~6 to 8 dB. Strike a note on the bass – an open E string or fretted at G, for instance, and sweep the EQ’s frequency knob from 30 Hz upwards. When the frequency knob hits the right spot, you’ll hear the sound really “jump” out in a big way.

If this happens, you’ve found the “hot spot” that’s probably causing the muddy sound (it will probably be somewhere below 200 Hz). Adjust the EQ gain knob for back down to a negative value, just enough to stop the “boom” and tighten up the sound. It’ll probably be somewhere in -6dB range, although it could well be more or less than that. It might also help to experiment with the bandwidth setting as well.

This excercise can also be accomplished with a graphic EQ, but not nearly as accurately.

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+1000. there's no faster way to find it and fix it than a parametric eq.

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Old 03-05-2011, 11:07 AM
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Thanks Wayne!
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:38 PM
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Sorry for reviving an old thread… but how do you find the problem without a parametric EQ / octave filter? For instance, can I find the problem using just my AMP's EQ settings?
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Old 06-04-2011, 03:14 PM
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Only if one of the amp’s EQ settings happen to be in the same frequency range as the problem frequency...

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