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Old 09-29-2010, 06:33 AM
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I'm doing a permanent install and of the impression that the "screw-down" terminals are best suited for bare wire applications. Would there be any advantage to using fork-type terminal ends or am I just making more work for myself?

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Old 09-29-2010, 06:44 AM
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I would just use bare wire, unless you tend to move things around a lot. It's one more thing to fail.
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:23 AM
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Unless You have "no-stress" screw posts (which I have never seen outside vintage pro amps), crimp-on forks on the leads are the only way to ensure long, trouble free service.

Another is to use quality banana plugs if the posts accept those as well. A definitive + side of bananas is that You can reverse phase or do bridged connections fast.

There's nothing as non-permanent than permanent I've discovered .

If the installation is indeed a permanent one, please do take a look at my thread about non-maintained amps in a permanent installation:

Do clean Your amps every once and a while. NOT for the faint at heart.

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Old 09-29-2010, 11:31 AM
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Hi.

Unless You have "no-stress" screw posts (which I have never seen outside vintage pro amps), crimp-on forks on the leads are the only way to ensure long, trouble free service.

Another is to use quality banana plugs if the posts accept those as well. A definitive + side of bananas is that You can reverse phase or do bridged connections fast.

There's nothing as non-permanent than permanent I've discovered .

If the installation is indeed a permanent one, please do take a look at my thread about non-maintained amps in a permanent installation:

Do clean Your amps every once and a while. NOT for the faint at heart.

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Sam
Just wanted to be clear....I'm addressing only the terminal strip, not the binding posts (which are banana plug compatible). I'm not sure what a "no stress" screw post is. The terminal strip has individual PH screws with squarish washers for each lead.

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The only time I don't use bananas is when the amp does not accept them. And I use only Mouser 174-5791 (black) and 174-5795 (red). http://www.padrick.net/Hi-Fi/Deltron1.jpg
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I'm doing a permanent install and of the impression that the "screw-down" terminals are best suited for bare wire applications. Would there be any advantage to using fork-type terminal ends or am I just making more work for myself?
For screw-down terminals, you definitely want crimped spade terminals, NOT bare wire. If you’re doing the job right, you should be using 12-ga. speaker wire, or at the very least 14 ga. That wire’s way too thick to try to wrap around a screw. The wire will “splay” out when you tighten the screw, and you might even end up with some of the strands shorting across other terminals – which will shut down the amp.

For 12-ga wire, you’ll be using a yellow spade lug; 14-ga. requires a blue. And be sure you use a terminal for the correct stud size, #6, #8 or #10. No need for a fancy or high-priced crimper; as a former installer, I’ve never had any problems using a cheap crimper like this. Just be sure an use the correct jaw:





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Old 09-30-2010, 12:11 PM
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I use the spade terminals on the line input connections of those as well.
It's not just the speaker wire.

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Just wanted to be clear....I'm addressing only the terminal strip, not the binding posts (which are banana plug compatible). I'm not sure what a "no stress" screw post is. The terminal strip has individual PH screws with squarish washers for each lead.

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On a "no stress" screw post the wire is given just the pressure, without any possibility of twisting or rotating. So if the washer has a tab that's locked into a groove to prevent rotation, a bare wire can be used. A correctly made crimp-on connector will be superior in any case.

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