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12-20-2012, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MNAirHead So on the mackie - no networking required --- all Bluetooth? Will it recall prior mixes? | As I recall from the YouTube vids, you need to attach a router if you want to undock or use other remote ipads. Bluetooth wouldn't give you much range. You can store mixes and channel presets. | 
12-20-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jad
As I recall from the YouTube vids, you need to attach a router if you want to undock or use other remote ipads. Bluetooth wouldn't give you much range. You can store mixes and channel presets. | Pardon if this is too geeky.... So I could have a small wireless connect point.... Crisscross rj45 cable and no computer?
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12-20-2012, 08:38 AM
|  | Ruff | | Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: In the dog house. | | | I'm not a geek but I'm looking hard at 1608 and it seems to require a wireless router, no computer, for wireless ipad control. Size/price/capability function it looks impressive. The presonus has the ability to multittrack record whereas the mackie is just main mix. But it's direct to the ipad and usable without a computer.
I'd love to hear more info from an actual user. | 
12-20-2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MNAirHead
Pardon if this is too geeky.... So I could have a small wireless connect point.... Crisscross rj45 cable and no computer? | Correct, unless you consider an ipad a computer, 'cause you must have an iPad to use the mixer, obviously. Must connect the router via ethernet, not USB. Router needs to be able to assign an IP address (DHCP). "N" is strongly suggested. | 
12-20-2012, 09:32 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | There we go .... I'm not a fan of needing the conputer to boot for it "really" to run
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12-21-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MNAirHead There we go .... I'm not a fan of needing the conputer to boot for it "really" to run | Word up on this thought! I love the exciting things I can do with a PC interfaced with alive mixing rig however....
I'm a real geek with my Presonus SL and Mac Pro with a half dozen iPads on stage, but I bought the Presonus because I can operate it without a PC if need be. I'm not sold at all on the Mackie thing. I've seen it and played with it for a couple weeks and like almost anything else made by Mackie in the past 10-12 years, I'm just not real sure it will work every time. Mackie really never has addressed the faulty ribbon cables and QC issues in their Chinese factories. | 
12-22-2012, 06:48 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hampton, NH US of A | | Digital mixers aren't for everyone and each has their own comfort zone. To clear things up the Mackie does require an iPad and if you want to go wireless you need a router. It can be technically any router but they recommend the mac which I bought. It is small and once set up it retains it's settings. In my case it is ready before I even finish plugging in the power connector to the mixer and turning it on. Sure as with any mixer, digital or analog something could go wrong and I suppose the digitals could be even more prone. One cool thing about the mackie is that if the iPad fails it will keep on running with all the settings last saved from the iPAd. You could keep on going I suppose using the gain controls. I try to carry a small 6 channel analog mixer as backup. Try is the word
The thing I find is that iF you want wireless ability on a budget I think this is the cheapest way to go. If you want laptop size this is the way to go. My mixer, iPad and router all fit in a large laptop bag. Finally do you want to just leave the mixer in the corner and mix from am iPad on a music stand this is the baby.
I apologize for accidently stealing this thread I only wanted to complete the story of my QSC system.
Chris
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12-22-2012, 09:14 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | Chris - this is what info I was looking for
I've used the motu as it remembers prior settings
I've not a fan of my presonus as the computer is really needed to do everything the brochure says
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12-22-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by musicman7722 I apologize for accidently stealing this thread I only wanted to complete the story of my QSC system.
Chris | Don't apologize, it has been interesting. The system isn't for me (yet anyway  ), but as a techie I love hearing where the technology is going. | 
12-25-2012, 07:12 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hampton, NH US of A | | | Glad no one is upset I moved us along. I agree with the comments on the Presonus, you do need the mac to use the iPAd remote and you need it for anything advanced above mixing such as backups of settings or recording. BTW the Mackie allows a stereo recording of the FOH mix right to the ipad. I gather you need a DAW program to really be able to listen to it but that is a cool feature.
Some pro's on the Presonus is the flexibility in outputs. It has 4 aux outs, stereo out, mono out, control room out and headphone out. I do miss these in the Mackie which has 6 aux outs, stereo out and headphone out. But you must choose the features that are important to you and go for it.
Cheers
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