Question about recording a live show...

[Fassa Albrecht]

This is kinda a weird question and I don't even know if this is the right place but here goes.

How do you record a live set of tracks so that two tracks 'run' into each other without a pause in the sound?

I ask this because a lot of the worship songs we do run continously into each other and with me wanting to record, I don't want to have to carve songs into chunks and decide where to cut off songs.

Anyone got any idea?

[lindseyp]

It may not be shared by everyone, but my opinion is to record everything straight live and carve it up afterward. If you carve it while recording it becomes more difficult to change your mind and edit later. Caveat: A lot of live recordings in the 70s and 80s were reproduced out of sequence and results varied. I know because I bought the albums.

[Fassa Albrecht]

Originally Posted by lindseyp

It may not be shared by everyone, but my opinion is to record everything straight live and carve it up afterward. If you carve it while recording it becomes more difficult to change your mind and edit later. Caveat: A lot of live recordings in the 70s and 80s were reproduced out of sequence and results varied. I know because I bought the albums.

This is kinda difficult to explain. I want tracks to run into each other without stopiing on a CD BUT on the CDs I've seen where this has been done the two songs are still registered as two different tracks.

[groooooove]

Originally Posted by lindseyp

It may not be shared by everyone, but my opinion is to record everything straight live and carve it up afterward. If you carve it while recording it becomes more difficult to change your mind and edit later. Caveat: A lot of live recordings in the 70s and 80s were reproduced out of sequence and results varied. I know because I bought the albums.

this is true, but its time consuming.

i think theres a setting in itunes you can put on any given track to make it run straight into the next tune.

or just pick a spot split the track and let the next one start. i have a lot of bootlegs that do this, but hey, sometimes you have to just deal with imperfections.

[lindseyp]

Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht

This is kinda difficult to explain. I want tracks to run into each other without stopiing on a CD BUT on the CDs I've seen where this has been done the two songs are still registered as two different tracks.

Gotcha. Unfortunately, when I've run into this problem I have had to rely on the playback system to play the songs continuously. My Sony CDR-W33 and MDR-JE10 recorders allow me to eliminate track numbers before finalizing a disc so I can make the tracks flow into each other by fading one out during recording, hitting pause, quickly fading the next song in, eliminating the track mark before finalizing. I used to do that all the time, those were the days.

[Fassa Albrecht]

Originally Posted by lindseyp

Gotcha. Unfortunately, when I've run into this problem I have had to rely on the playback system to play the songs continuously. My Sony CDR-W33 and MDR-JE10 recorders allow me to eliminate track numbers before finalizing a disc so I can make the tracks flow into each other by fading one out during recording, hitting pause, quickly fading the next song in, eliminating the track mark before finalizing. I used to do that all the time, those were the days.

I might just use cassettes and save a lot of time and effort.

[lindseyp]

Oops, sorry, the MDR-JE10 is a mini-disc recorder, which is actually easier to manipulate, now that I think of it. Not only that, if you just hit play on the mini-disc and record on the CDR you can dub the whole mini-disc as one track.

[Fassa Albrecht]

Originally Posted by lindseyp

Oops, sorry, the MDR-JE10 is a mini-disc recorder, which is actually easier to manipulate, now that I think of it. Not only that, if you just hit play on the mini-disc and record on the CDR you can dub the whole mini-disc as one track.

I always thought mini-discs were pretty much defunct.

[JimmyM]

They are but some people still have them. Mine busted a couple years ago.

I'm not understanding...do you want the two tracks to be on the CD as separate tracks but still run continuously into each other? If so, that's a setting in the CD burner. Look for "pause between tracks" or "time between tracks" and set it to 0. Otherwise they usually stick a 2-second default. The first track has to have a 2 second pause before it starts the track, but for the others you can make it 0.

If not, then I'm not sure what you're asking. It sounds like your band runs songs together and you want them to play that way on the CD without a gap.

[GeneralElectric]

It usually helps if you don't puke into your acoustic guitar.

[IvanMike]

this is really more of a recording question.

there are tons of software and hardware ways to address this, but the recording cats have the latest info.

generally some good editing software will do you just fine

[megadan]

Originally Posted by Fassa Albrecht

This is kinda difficult to explain. I want tracks to run into each other without stopiing on a CD BUT on the CDs I've seen where this has been done the two songs are still registered as two different tracks.

This is something that professional mastering deals with. Decent software allows you to insert a track change at any point without the default 2 seconds of silence that home or hobby software can produce. As JimmyM said.

[scootron]

This doesn't sound like the problem of some software adding a two second gap between tracks. This sounds like Fassa wants to to record a lengthy piece, then break it into tracks for a cd recording.

This is pretty easy, you just need the right editing software. I use DCART, but it is a dinosaur. There are newer, cheaper ones. You just throw up the entire wave file on the screen, then drop track markers where you want one track to end and the next to begin. No gaps, no clicks, just track 1 to track 2 to track 3, etc.

No biggie. There is freeware and shareware that you can download, but really nice software is fairly cheap and definitely worth the investment.