Recommend a decent CHEAP vocal mic for backup vox please!

[baba]

Originally Posted by Justice

I know people who still use sm58's, but i don't trust them.

actually, after I thought about it a bit, i don't know anyone still using sm58s. EV's Sennies, Audix, and Beta's but no good ole sm58s...hmmmmm, how weird.

You can't be serious...

[T-Bird]

Hi.

Add another vothe for SM58.

Originally Posted by ishouldbeking

Our female singer uses a 58, male singer has a beta 58 (he has a quiet voice)

Really? Not the other way around? Quiet voice or not, I've found that Betas are more suitable for the female voice.

Originally Posted by Justice

all my opinion, but..

I think the sm58 still sells on reputation alone. It's old technology and there is much better available.

And before someone says "well, the Fender P bass is old technology but is still a great bass" true, but people want vintage P basses, they don't want vintage sm58s, lol. Plus, the tech that goes into building a modern day P bass has evolved much more than the sm58.

I know people who still use sm58's, but i don't trust them.

actually, after I thought about it a bit, i don't know anyone still using sm58s. EV's Sennies, Audix, and Beta's but no good ole sm58s...hmmmmm, how weird.

I do respect Your opinions, but are you REALLY serious?

Granted, SM58 isn't the worlds most good sounding mic, but it's the most reliable. Once a stage-hand handed me me a SM58 which body had snapped in half when a ***-hole of a singer couldn't take the fact that they didn't win the award and tossed the mic off the stage. The body was shot, but the capsule still worked. Things got "a bit" heated...

I volunteer to give a nice retirement home for all the vintage SM58s "no one wants", I'll pay the postage.

Regards
Sam

[Jehos]

Behringer is great until some dummy manages to knock over a mic stand. Yeah, I'm that dummy, and my SM-58 (that I own, thank god) now has a monster dent in the grill from a basically 6-foot fall onto our carpet-over-concrete practice room floor. It still works perfectly though. Had that been a $50 cheapie, I would have had to spend another $50 to replace it, which would have been the same price as a SM-58 in the first place.

[JustDavid]

Check out the link to the Prosound site. Likely more good surfing there too.

[ishouldbeking]

Originally Posted by T-Bird

Really? Not the other way around? Quiet voice or not, I've found that Betas are more suitable for the female voice.

Took a look at his mic again last night, and i was mistaken about the model number... it's a Beta 87A condenser. It can get tricky with monitors and feedback live sometimes, but on certain stages we need something that can provide an adequate amount of volume. But otherwise, yeah, he sings through a 58 as well.

[RicPlaya]

IMO all the backup singers should use uni-direction mics such as the shure 57 or equivilent. You will get less stage noise in the mix and less feedback as well. Which maufacturer you prefer is a lot like chosing bass strings, it's all what you like. I prefer shure 57 betas because the highs are crisper, but that's just me.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by Justice

and unfortunately, will still sound lust like a SM58.

If you are buying a NEW mic, anything from Sennheiser or Audix that is in the same price range as a SM58 will be much better.

Example - the Sennheiser e835 is the same price as the sm58 and is a much better sounding mic.

Not to me it isn't. I hate Sennheisers. Give me a 58 any day. A regular old 58.

[RicPlaya]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Not to me it isn't. I hate Sennheisers. Give me a 58 any day. A regular old 58.

It's personal preference. I have an Audix and like it for mic'ing cabs but not vocals. Buddy in may band has the uni directional Sennheiers and it's a good mic. I have heard and used most of the popular mics, and they all have their own unique tone and voice. I say mic's are like bass strings. They all sound different, good in their own way..but it's ultimatley what we like as bass players and why we make a string choice..same goes for mics IMHO. I like Shure mics too, but I woukld take my Beta 57 over a regular 58 any day..but that's just me.

[JimmyM]

Originally Posted by RicPlaya

It's personal preference. I have an Audix and like it for mic'ing cabs but not vocals. Buddy in may band has the uni directional Sennheiers and it's a good mic. I have heard and used most of the popular mics, and they all have their own unique tone and voice. I say mic's are like bass strings. They all sound different, good in their own way..but it's ultimatley what we like as bass players and why we make a string choice..same goes for mics IMHO. I like Shure mics too, but I woukld take my Beta 57 over a regular 58 any day..but that's just me.

Ya, our guitarist and drummer love the Beta 57 and our keyboard player rocks a Beta 58. Too bright for me.

[RicPlaya]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

Ya, our guitarist and drummer love the Beta 57 and our keyboard player rocks a Beta 58. Too bright for me.

Yeah me too, another thing about the 58's is they can pick up too much stage noise and cause feedback issues. Our singer uses his 58, rest of our band uses the uni direction 57's, audix, sennhiesers etc.

[cdawzrd]

We use OM-2's and the lead singer has an OM-6, and they sound great. Not the tightest polar pattern ever but actually quite decent, and they need very little EQing to sound good, in my opinion they are much less "muddled" than 58's. Unfortunately, the 6's are hard to find cheap even on the used market.

[lindseyp]

I prefer the Audix OM-5 for my voice, but I know how to make it work for my nasally vocal quality.
If you're serious about background I wouldn't go any cheaper than a Shure SM58 (I avoid Shure's PG series like the plague!). My SM58 can handle a lot of abuse. I have seen people discredit them because of dented windscreens, but when I take the screens off and show the users that it's a replaceable part and the capsule is fine, they're surprised since they know what they see, not what they hear.

[Stanley Design]

I buy behringer XM8500's exclusively. They are cheap but you get more than you pay for. The ones I bought have lasted through quite a bit of abuse and they sound pretty good for general recording purposes (micing cabs, overheads for drums, in the kick drum, etc) So I have 4 mics for like $100, they all have hard cases and stand clips and I'm not OVERLY pissed off if anybody ever trashes/steals one. I don't use them every day, just some general all purpose mics that are cheap and sound OK. The poor mans sm57.

[modulusman]

Originally Posted by Stanley Design

I buy behringer XM8500's exclusively. They are cheap but you get more than you pay for. The ones I bought have lasted through quite a bit of abuse and they sound pretty good for general recording purposes (micing cabs, overheads for drums, in the kick drum, etc) So I have 4 mics for like $100, they all have hard cases and stand clips and I'm not OVERLY pissed off if anybody ever trashes/steals one. I don't use them every day, just some general all purpose mics that are cheap and sound OK. The poor mans sm57.

I bet that sounds like ass micing a kick drum.

[JKT]

We've gone to mostly Audix. They seem to be a bit tighter and punchier.

IMO the xm8500 makes a great back-up or extra mic.