who do you guys like for in-ear monitoring systems? - Page 3

WalterBush · #41 10-08-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sleeplessknight

Do you happen to have a picture of this setup in use, by any chance?

I took MNAirhead's advice, and ordered the 351 shortly after I got my wireless system a year or two back. It is absolutely been a gig-saver more than once, since no matter how bad the soundguy or how short the soundcheck, I'm always able to hear my vocals, bass, and the click track to which we're playing.

I'm recabling my rig to better fit in a new rack, so when I have it all out and exposed later today I'll snap a couple photos for you.

MNAirHead · #42 10-08-2012, 10:35 AM

Sorry I've not been monitoring this...

In a wireless setup... the Rolls is used as a "pass through" or "splitter" mixer... basically you're controling the instrument level, vocal level (or ambient mic) and mix level.. blending together...

Your vocals and instrument can pass through to amplification (or wireless Iem)

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IF you do not have a career sound man and $$$$$$ worth of gear it's silly to bring an alien wireless setup to a gig and expect the sound guy to know it... have time to mix you... or have a clue of what you're hearing

The sound guy can then plug into your rolls unit (while you're on your wireless or other output) and hear what you're hearing.

Basically you're taking control of your own monitor "more me" mix.... and can alter it without being a goofy obscure signal making bass kid.

(the former PM350 has 1/4 outs for an amp)

Levenso · #43 12-18-2012, 09:23 PM

Hi everyone,

Sorry to post on this long lasting thread, but it's one of the best I've found on the subject.

I want to invest in a wireless personal monitoring system, just not sure which one to chose at the end of 2012. I know some are discontinued (Shure PSM400 and 600), and sometimes services can be bad for discontinued items (Sennheiser). So this is why I'm posting this, in order to get an update.

I'm a guitarist in a rock band. We do small and medium size stages. I think I would use a mono (only one mix from the mixer), but stereo could be an option later.

Do not consider the earbuds that comes with the system as I will have, probably Shure 425 for mid hump.

I'd like to find used stuff, and currently I can find PSM200, PSM400, AT M3 in the 400$-600$ range, on Ebay. Which is good for me considering that I'll have to buy earbuds as well.

What would you recommend?

thanks

MNAirHead · #44 12-18-2012, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levenso

Hi everyone,

Sorry to post on this long lasting thread, but it's one of the best I've found on the subject.

I want to invest in a wireless personal monitoring system, just not sure which one to chose at the end of 2012. I know some are discontinued (Shure PSM400 and 600), and sometimes services can be bad for discontinued items (Sennheiser). So this is why I'm posting this, in order to get an update.

I'm a guitarist in a rock band. We do small and medium size stages. I think I would use a mono (only one mix from the mixer), but stereo could be an option later.

Do not consider the earbuds that comes with the system as I will have, probably Shure 425 for mid hump.

I'd like to find used stuff, and currently I can find PSM200, PSM400, AT M3 in the 400$-600$ range, on Ebay. Which is good for me considering that I'll have to buy earbuds as well.

What would you recommend?

thanks

Psm200

Addni · #45 12-19-2012, 07:13 PM

most of professional tours are using Sennheiser EW300 G2 og G3, after that comes Shure PSM900 og PSM1000

sleeplessknight · #46 01-12-2013, 08:58 PM

Wahoo! I spent a good 2 hours in Guitar Center Boston today, and was able to land an EXTREMELY agreeable price on an Audio Technica M3 base station and 8x M3 bodypacks. They didn't have the whole rig in stock, so it'll be ordered on Monday. I think we're going to see just where we're at with the base rig now, then look into ordering the fancy dual/tri-driver buds and the Rolls units if we feel like we're missing something. Needless to say, I'm VERY excited! SIGNIFICANTLY less gear to haul around on-stage (and to/from home), along with the ability for everyone to hear everyone else at more or less optimal levels... CANNOT wait!

misuspita · #47 01-15-2013, 01:11 AM

Hello. I'm new here so this is my first post.

I've been looking for a in-ear solution for my band, and so far I've found that Audio-Technica M3 fits our need. BUT. I've seen online a new in-ear solution from SmProAudio called WASP, and it seems to be made in colaboration with Waves, it has their digital knowhow inside, which includes Maxxbass, Maxxvolume, maxxeq. Intriguing, the price for the unit is rather small compared with the Sennheiser 300IEM, or the AT M3, one of the reasons may be because they don't include no headphones, which in my oppinion is better, you already have to buy better ones with either system you end up buying. So my question to you is what do you think of this WASP thingie? Has anyone used it? Is it good?

Thanks in advance for your input.

This is the link to their presentation:
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2011/...asp-and-q-dac/

MNAirHead · #48 01-15-2013, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Addni

most of professional tours are using Sennheiser EW300 G2 og G3, after that comes Shure PSM900 og PSM1000

The largest selling system by units is PSM200

misuspita · #49 01-25-2013, 02:41 PM

no one?

sleeplessknight · #50 01-25-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by misuspita

no one?

To be honest, you kind of sound like either a spam-bot or a spammer...

misuspita · #51 01-27-2013, 10:21 AM

Lol.

Ok, maybe I sound like one, but I was genuinely interested if anyone had any kind of experience, good or bad with that Wasp thing. If until I have the money to buy our inear system I can't make a good opinion on it, then I will buy the AT M3, which I heard good things about, but is a little more expensive. Expensive as in 730€ vs. 490€ in my country. That's why I was curious about the Wasp, thinking it has the Waves software inside, acting as a limiter, eq, bass enhancement internal unit, no need for external stuff for a good inear. And another thing is that I cant get oppinions about it un the internet, it's like this thing is not even selling. By the way, I noticed even their website doesnt promote it...

Either way, I will most likely pair them(anyone) with a good IE phones like Shure SE-425. Sorry if I sound like a spambot/spammer again...

lostinjanuary · #52 01-27-2013, 06:17 PM

The church I play at uses a system by Aviom. They are pretty nice, but expensive. Perfect for large groups. I suppose it depends on your budget.

sleeplessknight · #53 01-27-2013, 06:20 PM

Oh man, I would LOVE an Aviom system! However, for a band of my size, the 'entry level' is something like six large. I think I'd rather spend half of that and be wireless to boot.

misuspita · #54 01-28-2013, 01:48 AM

Aviom is definitely out because budget restrictions. I can afford that AT M3 but if proven worthy, I'd much better have the Wasp, as the difference could be invested in something else (a better pair of phones)

Bassorama57 · #55 01-28-2013, 09:22 AM

Anyone try one of these yet?
http://www.shure.com/americas/produc...ystems/psm-900
The cue mode feature sounds fantastic (allows you to roll through all the available mixes on the actual unit) - though it's definitely pricer than the M3 and ew300.

misuspita · #56 01-29-2013, 11:40 AM

Uhh, ok, I'm decided... AT M3 it is.

I have only one question for you. As the IEM cuts you off from crowd, and you are not "connected" with their vibe/noise, what would be the best solution to overcome this detachement? Can a vocal microphone put on the stand on stage facing the audience be a reasonable solution? And send that "ambience mic" into the IEM? Thanks

1954bassman · #57 01-29-2013, 01:28 PM

That is what some folks do "ambience mic".

Wadge · #58 02-12-2013, 12:35 PM

For my 2 bands we have the presonus 24.4.4 and so far it has worked great.

With the Big Band, we power the mixer and power the laptop and connect a router - actually the laptop connects wirelessly to the router also without a hardwired connection. I then connect AUX 1 to 4 to a 4 channel Behringer headphone amp:

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/HA4700.aspx

That gives me four mono mixes for 4 members of the band which they can control themselves from their iphones/ipads. By using these first 4 Auxs each band member has a mono mix in their IEMs. This is of course a wired system.

The behringer also has a main input and each of the 4 headphone amps in the behringer has a blend knob between the main input and the individual input so that the musicians can blend between the two. In fact, I also link AUX 8 and 9 on the Presonus and create a stereo mix of the instruments which can use it. So in this linked AUX pair I create a stereo mix of keyboards, drum overheads and brass and guitar effects. Bass drum, Snare drum, bass and the main vocals are not mixed in.

In this way, the band members can blend the stereo mix going into the main input of the headphone amp with their own individual mono mix over which they have control. They can also choose to raise the volume of any of the instruments already in the stereo mix in their individual mono mix and blend between the two.

With the presonus that leaves me with a further 4 Auxes, two of which are used by the main singer who gets a stereo mix (AUX 5 and 6) in his wireless in ears and the last two AUXes are sent to wedges for the brass section who have two individual monitor mixes which they also control wireless from their ipads/iphones.

This is a setup for a big band so it ought to be quite cumbersome to get a sound check. With this system however, setup of the PA and monitor/IEM sound check takes 10 minutes. The singer sits out the first few instrumental songs and walks out with the ipad to mix the band wirelessly.

The biggest issue we still have is getting the drummer to get to the venue on time!!

socialleper · #59 02-12-2013, 01:07 PM

The other night when I was watching the Grammy's EVERYONE was wearing these things. I guess this is another piece of gear I'm going to have to learn about.

neverdunn · #60 02-12-2013, 06:03 PM

I researched this to death and ended up getting the AT M2. It was stereo and had multiple channels, so no interferance and I could mix in as much me as I wanted. I also upgraded to Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10's. The best UE's made without going custom ear molds. GREAT bass, replaceable wire leads and a great seal for isolation when using the foam inserts makes it a no-brainer for me. Can't recommend it enough.