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Old 11-07-2012, 09:48 PM
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Wi Audio Link Wireless Review IEM

This is a reletively new product that I will honestly say is the BEST $189 I ever spent for a piece of music gear.

I play at a very large church 1 wed nt service and 2 Sun morning serviceseach week ( love it)

We have a full blown band live amps /drums and we utilize Aviom in ear monitoring. I was looking for a wireless IEM that would not sacrifice my low end fidelity having about to yank over my avom mixer this past Sunday with my 20 ft ext cable
I found this system for $189. I was a little skeptical because of price.

I use this system with my Superphonics Atrios and finally cable freedom

I kept the thing powered up from 4:45- 9:30 and still had power

I got the 100 ft line of site as advertised. about 75 non line of site with no latency with my wireless guitar syst

I use a Relay G50 wireless guitar system along with one of our guitar players no problem from either systems

The Wi audio has a 15 hz to 20khz freq response

I will try it as a inst wireless syst out of curiosity

Again this system gets 2 thumbs up

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I had this sysyem, I wanted it for a wireless instrument system. The price was great, and the fact that they came with a case is also great. The sound quality was ok, but it sounded too digital to me (my signal path is all analog with tubes) and reduced my volume quite a bit. They frequency response was great, as the sound was full and my low B came through nicely with no distortion.

But I returned mine because of one fatal flaw: latency.
It was about 10ms between playing and hearing. I tried to work with it, but I was unable to be comfortable with it. I tried it at band practice, and I just couldn't keep locked in, as I am an articulate player and once you start hitting those 16th notes at a fast tempo it all falls apart. Drove me crazy. And as I said earlier it did kill my tone a bit, not in terms of frequency, but it only samples at 16 bit 48khz, sucking all of my nice analog warmth into a digital dungeon somewhere in space.

I just sent it back last week, and ordered the line6 g30.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:38 AM
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I had this sysyem, I wanted it for a wireless instrument system. The price was great, and the fact that they came with a case is also great. The sound quality was ok, but it sounded too digital to me (my signal path is all analog with tubes) and reduced my volume quite a bit. They frequency response was great, as the sound was full and my low B came through nicely with no distortion.

But I returned mine because of one fatal flaw: latency.
It was about 10ms between playing and hearing. I tried to work with it, but I was unable to be comfortable with it. I tried it at band practice, and I just couldn't keep locked in, as I am an articulate player and once you start hitting those 16th notes at a fast tempo it all falls apart. Drove me crazy. And as I said earlier it did kill my tone a bit, not in terms of frequency, but it only samples at 16 bit 48khz, sucking all of my nice analog warmth into a digital dungeon somewhere in space.

I just sent it back last week, and ordered the line6 g30.
After getting home from work this morning I got the Wi Audio system ,my Relay G50 wireless and my best custom made cable for a side by side comparison with my ears into my In Ear Monitors utilizing my Martin Electric/Acoustic for some finger picking.

In a nutshell
Cable :
of course straight tone

Relay G50: Great tone/ Hardly the Latency (IMO these wireless systems are the best on the market)

Wi Audio:

you could slightly tell the Latency w no freq loss:

Playing in a very large Sanctuary I doubt it would make any timing difference again IMO

Here is a great article on Latency
http://whirlwindusa.com/support/tech...-pandoras-box/
I would not use it nor any wireless system in a studio /recording atmosphere. Cable only

Again, Mighty Woot1 You will love the Relay Inst Wireless syst

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great review pbass62 ! I always wanted to know how it worked as IEM.. so.. you recommend it ?
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great review pbass62 ! I always wanted to know how it worked as IEM.. so.. you recommend it ?
Yes I would. Again I'm using an Aviom syst and had great results
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I really considered but the latency issues put me off.
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You really have to try it before blowing it off due to latency

Latency on small levels is something the mind can easily deal with. For example, if you stand 10ft from your amp, that's 10ms latency. You'll play fine.

10MS is easy to achieve these days, and these Wi things have nowhere near 10ms.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:58 PM
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After getting home from work this morning I got the Wi Audio system ,my Relay G50 wireless and my best custom made cable for a side by side comparison with my ears into my In Ear Monitors utilizing my Martin Electric/Acoustic for some finger picking.

In a nutshell
Cable :
of course straight tone

Relay G50: Great tone/ Hardly the Latency (IMO these wireless systems are the best on the market)

Wi Audio:

you could slightly tell the Latency w no freq loss:

Playing in a very large Sanctuary I doubt it would make any timing difference again IMO

Here is a great article on Latency
http://whirlwindusa.com/support/tech...-pandoras-box/
I would not use it nor any wireless system in a studio /recording atmosphere. Cable only

Again, Mighty Woot1 You will love the Relay Inst Wireless syst
This is a great article on Latency
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Old 11-17-2012, 10:19 AM
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You really have to try it before blowing it off due to latency

Latency on small levels is something the mind can easily deal with. For example, if you stand 10ft from your amp, that's 10ms latency. You'll play fine.

10MS is easy to achieve these days, and these Wi things have nowhere near 10ms.
True, but when you have 10ms latency to start with, then stand 10 feet from your amp, you now have 20ms latency.

I couldn't hang with it, it was really weird to me how I could feel my note vibrating in my hands before I could hear it in my amp.

I think for some this system would work well, but it wasn't good enough for me.

I got my line6 g30 last week, and I LOVE it. Best system I have ever used!

YMMV, etc.
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G30 is great!

Digital wireless rules!
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Old 11-26-2012, 02:43 PM
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You really have to try it before blowing it off due to latency

Latency on small levels is something the mind can easily deal with. For example, if you stand 10ft from your amp, that's 10ms latency. You'll play fine.

10MS is easy to achieve these days, and these Wi things have nowhere near 10ms.
agree!!!!
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G30 is great!

Digital wireless rules!
Line 6 relay system

Agree again my friend
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