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Old 08-11-2012, 06:35 PM
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What is great tone to your ears? Here are various basses, amps, strings, etc, that have great tone to my ears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMC99EdSfe8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjDmye9bYjs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fY94ri2WOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mi40...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JInxsRyVgCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLUrE3VOeU

What appeals to you?

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Old 01-05-2013, 10:08 PM
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What is great tone to your ears? Here are various basses, amps, strings, etc, that have great tone to my ears:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMC99EdSfe8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjDmye9bYjs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fY94ri2WOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mi40...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JInxsRyVgCk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLUrE3VOeU

What appeals to you?

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Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. The 1st and 4th tones appeal to me most.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:26 PM
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Worship- How to get great tone for it...

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5 string active bass with a 3 or 4 band preamp.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:29 PM
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Worship- How to get great tone for it...

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5 string active bass with a 3 or 4 band preamp.
I'm afraid I've come to the conclusion that active in worship is utter crap. I played a guest's custom 5 string MM, active 3 band and put my strings on, set it all to flat, and it just sounded bad. Period. So active is out of the question. Sorry
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:45 AM
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I'm afraid I've come to the conclusion that active in worship is utter crap. I played a guest's custom 5 string MM, active 3 band and put my strings on, set it all to flat, and it just sounded bad. Period. So active is out of the question. Sorry
the word custom is key here and most custom basses of any manufacturer personally IMO i haven't ever liked...and you are probably right in that it was utter crap. and musicmans tone i haven't really liked as so much either.

i agree that an active 5 string bass will give you a bright sound and fuller/punchier sound. i have had only 2 basses, my first is a yamaha BB1200 and this sounded great smooth i loved it. it was a passive bass. my bass that i have owned (my 2nd and 3rd. i sold and repurchased the same bass again due to moving countries ) Spector Rebop DLXFM 5string bass, and its one of the best basses i have heard. i had compared this to many others, including fender jazz, musicman, various warwick basses, and this was the only bass (obviously IMO) that i picked up and right away had and amazing feel to it, and i had access to a wide range of tones with out compromising the overall integrity of the tone, i can have some nice phat bottom end whilst being punchy and clear.

so i would disagree when you say that an active bass's sound is utter crap, however everyone's opinion is different.

P.S. i have used this within a worship environment and it has served me very well!

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Old 01-06-2013, 11:38 AM
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I'd distrust the replies you're getting (for worship)

Sorry----
WE know zero about the sound crew... signal chain (or not)... type of room... acoustic treatments... di... amps... etc.

For worship, you need to start with the room acoustics... the dB limit... and the staffing.

Out of the 200+ churches I've played at (subbing etc), what sounds acceptable 2 feet away is normally different 30feet back.



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How... it's simple

"Mr Sound guy... am I too loud... what exactly do you want me to change in my signal for you?"

You then have the tough job of doing what's asked and believing it.
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Old 01-06-2013, 11:55 AM
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I agree with most of the other responses about it being very subjective. Flat is ideal, but I can usually get an even better tone with a little bit of eq tweaking.

Here's what I do. Cut your lows below 80hz at least a little bit. This is the area that gets booming in most churches. Slightly boost your low mids--I like 250hz ideally, but anywhere between 100hz and 350hz will work (use your parametric to make a narrow peak). Slightly cut middle frequencies where the guitars will be dominant---400 to 800hz. Slightly boost high mids 1khz to 2khz for note definition. Adjust high frequencies to taste.

That's where I start in most rooms.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:14 PM
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I'm afraid I've come to the conclusion that active in worship is utter crap. I played a guest's custom 5 string MM, active 3 band and put my strings on, set it all to flat, and it just sounded bad. Period. So active is out of the question. Sorry
^^ this guy is a little angry little dude huh? He must not be able to afford higher quality five string basses with good preamps or something and is pretty mad about it. I could not agree more that a five string bass with a 3 band is going to give you a great tone along with a clean compressor and a slight boost as well as a good direct box that can give you a clean fat boost to the board.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:00 AM
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We will need more info on the room. However, for me, it has always worked better if I separated the DI from the amp/monitor. That way you can tweak the sound on stage without wacking the FOH. For myself, that means a neutral DI setup with high pass filtering and phase switch and an amp for my monitor that had no connection to the house. I like the Fdeck stuff and the Fishman Platinum Pro for the boomy room we play in. In truth, I have tried a bunch of different amps over the years. They have made far less difference than how the DI was rigged.

Oh and I change basses and strings all the time. Anything can work if you can control it.
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