16th note triplets?

[Trist6075]

Hey every now and then in songs I come across notes like these. I think its usually in 12/8 songs? But anyways I just havent really understood that or how the timing would go for these things. One example would be in Black Sabboths War Pigs the bass line seems to have a few and i think little wing too from hendrix. So are these different from 32nds? Any help with this would be cool. Thanks.

Tristan

[floydbass]

a triplet puts 3 16th notes where there would normally be two. When counting these you think " Trip- a- let" Im sure someone can explain it better that I.

[JimK]

First off, a 1/16th note triplet is different than 1/32nd notes.
In 4/4 time...
...there's a possibilty of sixteen(16) 1/16th notes/rests, right?
Doing the math-
There would be thirty-two(32) notes/rests played as 1/32nds.
There would be twenty-four(24) notes/rests played as 1/16th note triplets.
One(1) 1/16th note triplet fits in the same amount of space/time as TWO(2) 1/16th notes(just as ONE 1/8th note triplet fits into the same space/time as TWO 1/8th notes).

The trick is being able to count them smoothly & as unawkwardly as possible.
A few here will scoff-
Regardless, anytime I see/play Triplets...I think "Hig-a-dee Bog-a-dee" vs. "1&a2&a", etc.
If it makes you feel any better, I picked this up from Ed Freidland, a damn fine educator & bassist.

Playing all 1/16th notes in 4/4-
l1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&al

Playing a 1/16th note triplet at the beginning of each beat-
l"Hig-a-Dee"&a "Bog-a-Dee"&a "Hig-a-Dee"&a "Bog-a-Dee"&al

Playing a 1/16th note at the end of each beat-
l1e"Hig-a-Dee" 2e"Bog-a-Dee" 3e"Hig-a-Dee" 4e"Bog-Dee"l

Make sense?

[Trist6075]

Yea it does thanks a lot. I'll keep working on it.

[christoph h.]

in case anyone wants to google his name (and because I think everybody deserves to have his name written correctly):

JimK is talking about Ed Friedland. just a little typo in the cool explanation...

[JimK]

Thanks. I should know better.

Friedland...Friedland...Friedland...etc

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