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06-21-2008, 05:17 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Studio City, CA | | 1st Time Gigging with A Fretless - Little Nervous
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Gigging tomorrow in a pedestrian Mall by the Ocean tomorrow and I'm taking my fretless for the first time. Have had it for about a month, but it was unavailable for half of that time (Shop/travel).
Will have my trusty MM Sterling but the frets feel like speed bumps now(but nothing else growls like it).
Have worked on holding 'pitch' enough where I feel I can perform with the fretless but still a little nervous about it.
Any tips?
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06-21-2008, 05:20 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bessemer, AL | | | A trick some fretless and upright players use is use an open note whenever you can | 
06-21-2008, 05:36 PM
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06-21-2008, 05:37 PM
|  | that video LIES | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern California | | | Play blindfolded(or w/your eyes closed, or in a dark room)to CDs or some other recorded music. Be sure the recorded stuff is in tune.
Edit: Do this a few times well before your gig...
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06-21-2008, 09:55 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ | | Not to bust your chops, but that would be pretty damn funny if you lost your rhythm and ruined the gig. <_<;
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06-21-2008, 10:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston, MA | | Hey this is your chance to add some spice, if you hit the wrong pitch just do a little slide or bend  .
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06-21-2008, 11:12 PM
|  | Groovin' Eskrimador Lark in the Morning Instructional Videos; Audix Microphones | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Mtns, California | | | I just did my first gig with the fretless (at least the first one in 20 years...) a week ago.
I can definitely relate to the nervous part.
It went well, and wound up being a lot of fun.
Have fun, and play well.
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06-23-2008, 12:06 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Studio City, CA | | Thanks all, it went well  Even used it on a few more tunes that I had planned.
Love that unique sound and it solos well with the sliding pitches. 
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06-24-2008, 04:23 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Portsmouth, England | | | Hehe, I can relate to this...
My first fretless was also my first 5-string...
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06-26-2008, 05:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London | | | Fretless sounds awesome and I very seldom see people playing them. If its your first gig theres bound to be the odd note ever so slightly off but you can adjust it quickly and people probably won't notice anyway-they'll be to busy going 'Wow dude,like whats that weird bass about and stuff...it sounds like Mwah and stuff'...
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06-26-2008, 10:20 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Haddon Heights, NJ | | | Hey, good luck to you. I played a fretless on one gig & probably never will again. My intonation was AWFUL!
The best way to learn is to become as used to the fretless as you are with the fretted. There are a lot of distractions while playing live that aren't present in your living room (pretty women in the audience, drinks, sound mix, etc.), which IMO can add to less than stellar technique, which translates to poor pitch.
You should get better the more & more you play it live.
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06-26-2008, 11:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Florida | | | Have some light shining on your fingerboard. Don't be too proud to look. After a couple dozen gigs, you'll settle in. | 
06-26-2008, 12:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Auburn, CA | | | Make sure you can hear yourself extra well. Also make sure you can hear the keys or some other chord insturment well so you can adjust your pitch as needed.
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06-26-2008, 12:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ashburn, Va | | Quote:
Originally Posted by bassrique Have some light shining on your fingerboard. Don't be too proud to look. After a couple dozen gigs, you'll settle in. | To go off of what my low end brother stated. I just did a gig this weekend with my fretless. It has no lines and I just key off the dots....duh...right? I am pretty comfortable on a fretless, but I need to see the board at least. Well, come time to play.......I have no light at all!!! I cannot even see the dots. So, I decide to move upstage as close to the light as possible. Luckily, I really only remember one kind of off note. Nothing that a little vibrato didn't fix though.
Someone also mentioned above about using open strings.....yes....yes.....yes.....use them!!! Yes, you lose a little of the growl/mwah but you are in tune!!! Then you can use that open string to find the 5th fret or 7th in dropped D.
Good luck!!!! Fretless done right sounds amazing!!!!!
Peace,
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06-27-2008, 04:56 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY | | | As my upright teachers have said, "playing in tune is just correcting your pitch before anyone notices." You'll never be able to play perfectly in tune, but if you use your ears rather than relying on just your fingers and your eyes, you'll be able to correct your pitch immediately. | 
06-27-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman822 A trick some fretless and upright players use is use an open note whenever you can | stopped notes normally sound better, especially on URB. i've been taught to try and stop notes wherever possible and only use open notes when necessary (mostly as a device for covering BIG shifts and such). it's much tougher in the beginning but the time in the shed pays off in the long run with better tone
what may help is using some vibrato. it's not actually supposed to be used to cover shaky intonation, but does have the attractive side effect of doing so. you can also try playing up the mwah type tone and sliding (small slides 1-2 "frets") into notes you're not comfortable with.
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