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Old 05-24-2009, 01:41 PM
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I put the word problem in quotes becasue i dont think its that bad of a thing. Just weird.

Basically at this point I'm working on ear training and learning by ear and what not (getting pretty good at it too ). But to my point, when I sit down with my bass and try to figure it out and actually focus on the bass part it seems like thats when I have the most trouble hearing it. However, when I jus have cd player going, and I'm just listening to my music for fun and relaxation I can totally pick out the bass part and hear it way clearer.

Anyone else experience this?
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Old 05-24-2009, 01:57 PM
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Could it be your location (distance from speakers) , or how you are listening, say speakers vs. earphones?

Also - when you are listening for pleasure, you are not being critical about what you miss.
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Old 05-24-2009, 06:58 PM
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different bands cater to different vocal ranges, so there is a tendency for a group to use one key. if you know the band, start there and its normally pretty easy. if its traditional rock, it will probably be e or d minor, with very little deviation. or, if youre rage against the machine, you can write everything in f# minor pentatonic and still sound cool. i think i got that key right... anyway, practice, practice, practice.
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I put the word problem in quotes becasue i dont think its that bad of a thing. Just weird.

Basically at this point I'm working on ear training and learning by ear and what not (getting pretty good at it too ). But to my point, when I sit down with my bass and try to figure it out and actually focus on the bass part it seems like thats when I have the most trouble hearing it. However, when I jus have cd player going, and I'm just listening to my music for fun and relaxation I can totally pick out the bass part and hear it way clearer.

Anyone else experience this?
Most people "hear" better without the instrument in their hands. This is because when you're just sitting down and listening to the music, listening is all you're doing.

You're not distracted by the instrument in your hands; you don't immediately guess where the notes are on the fret board, and your ego's not involved saying "I should be getting this faster" or "this is too hard for me to figure out."

You simply hear the notes and phrases for what they are, not what you think they might be. The added step of translating the pitches and sounds in your head to a musical instrument does not exist.

What you might try to get past this is to listen to the bass line you are trying to learn, then, after you can hear it clearly in your head, sing the part out loud. If you can sing the part out loud accurately (key word, accurately), there is no reason you can not play it on your instrument. Having internalized the pitches and rhythms in your head, figuring out where the notes are on the instrument is the easy part.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:33 PM
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I have that problem with bass lines when I don't know the key or chords, or there are a lot of 16th notes, but I have a lot less problems hearing with guitar. I am able to figure out keys and chords and then go from there. I'm going to buy a cheap electric guitar for that reason alone. Probably will buy one of those bass trainers as well, just to slow the difficult passages down.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:45 PM
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Yes, you're not the only one. When I listen in the car I hear much more/better. When at home figuring it out I quickly resort to the "easy(to hear) parts. Just need to concentrate more. Just practice practice practice.
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