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Old 07-10-2008, 11:28 PM
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hi,
ive noticed myself developing a "sloppy" fretting style...
my left hand tends to curve, so instead of my palm facing past my left shoulder it basically faces square in the eyes

also i have trouble with octaves so i tend to use my index and pinky at the lower frets but i am able to to use index and middle at the higher frets(musically speaking)

now should i TRY to correct these and suffer through muscle memory all over

or

should i just keep playing as i am and accecpt my limitations and develop around them?

thanks for ur advice
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:30 PM
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Brutal practice: hold a tennis ball in your left hand.
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:37 AM
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hmm thanks for the tip
my friend has one of those grip masters and he likes it..i guess this is the ghetto version
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Brutal practice: hold a tennis ball in your left hand.
What, behind the fret board?
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:12 AM
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The way I teach it, you're probably doing just fine for now.

If you look at your left hand, you'll notice that it's designed to face you when you open your hand, and that it takes a bit of effort (not a lot, but certainly some) to turn it away from you over your left shoulder.

My teaching technique is to have the student adapt the bass to his/her hand, pushing the neck UP and OUT with the left thumb. This feels a little weird, and also means that you'll be pushing the strings down with a different part of your finger than you thought you should be, but that also speaks to the way your hand is designed...

...if you take at look at your left hand while you're squeezing that tennis ball (you ARE squeezing a tennis ball right now, aren't you? Good.), you'll notice that your fingertips aren't all facing you directly. Your index and pinky should be aiming the corners of the nail at you, while your middle and ring fingers are pretty much face-on. This is a good representation of the location of the pressure points on your fretting hand.

I draw dots on my student's fingers and teach them to touch the dot to the string, and then put their pressure through the dot. Again, index and pinky, outside corners; middle and ring, center. (My middle finger tends to lean to the left; YMMV.)

Something else to consider: your hand may not be built like everyone else's. There will be subtle changes you'll have to make when adapting a technique concept. This is OKAY; largely the techniques you'll hear about are generalized, and must be adapted to the player. There is no "good" and "bad" technique; there's only "efficient" and "inefficient".

And as far as octaves go, no reason to play them 1-3 or 2-4 if you don't need to. I play octaves 1-4 even higher up the neck if it suits me (and sometimes it does).

I'm sure many here won't agree with my method, but it works well for my students. Again, if it works for you, it's a good technique simply BECAUSE it works for you.
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Old 07-11-2008, 02:14 PM
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thanks A LOT !! this helps me a ton
the only thing about octaves 1-4 is getting my pinky strength up as i was trying to play them 1-3 and having to move my hand and would thus cause the lower string to ring and ruin the sound...thanks for the advice
im still growing so i hope in the future ill be able to adapt to 1-3 2-4

thanks again for the info
p.s any chance ur in the san diego county area..id love to learn some more
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:46 AM
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No such luck... I'm in northern Colorado. You'll have to move here for your lessons. But I'm happy to help as much as I can on TB.

Something to consider when it comes to pinkies: There's no real room in ANY of your fingers for much muscle mass or tone; it's really the tendons and ligaments doing most of the work. And your pinky has an asset: the big muscles on the palm of your hand just below your pinky. Plus your wrist, which when twisted in the right direction can add pressure to your pinky when fretting a note. I'll bet you can lock your pinky in a curve shape; I'll even bet you can hook your pinkies together and pull and they won't slip apart. Notice what muscle you're flexing to make this work, and try using the same muscle when using your pinky.

Lemme know if this makes a difference.
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