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06-18-2005, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM Oh, stop with the whammy bar prejudice! The bass whammy is possibly the only mod that actually does something. I have a bass with one, and they're actually useful. I use mine a lot to imitate the sound of a fretless. And of course, it's always fun to turn on your distortion of choice and do dive bomb wankfests at the end of songs. | I wasn't hating on the whammy bar, I personally don't have any use for one because of the music I play. I love the whammy wankfest as much as the next guy, maybe more. My comment was more directed personally toward Alvaro, while I don't know him at all personally I feel like I am somewhat familiar with the style of bass he lays down from reading his posts and comments and knowing a bit about some of the kinds of music he plays, I'll just leave it there.
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06-18-2005, 07:50 AM
|  | TalkBass' resident Bongo + Cowbell player | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Bucaramanga, Colombia, South A | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by lowphatbass I wasn't hating on the whammy bar, I personally don't have any use for one because of the music I play. I love the whammy wankfest as much as the next guy, maybe more. My comment was more directed personally toward Alvaro, while I don't know him at all personally I feel like I am somewhat familiar with the style of bass he lays down from reading his posts and comments and knowing a bit about some of the kinds of music he plays, I'll just leave it there. | Wow, thanks for that, Lowphatbass! It's nice to see that someone recognizes (for good or for bad) anybody's style and influences. The sad part is: The music I talk the most about here is the music I play the less (with a band) because there are no chances for that style here, and that's a real shame. My tropical band mates say that I'm a frustrated rocker and I think they're right. Anyway, here's a short video clip of me doing the neck bending thing at one of our seldom gigs with my rock band. Actually, these are two short clips joined (4.97 MB - 29 seconds). I added the second one because the effect is more audible than on the first, since the sound was taken from the PA system and PA systems' operators here are a pain in the a** because they hardly know about mixing a bass the right way due to the fact that "the bass is going to blow my speakers".  
Link: http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...J1ZZ2PY7VYPJYE
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06-18-2005, 12:02 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Chicago | | Great clip!!!! Thanks for posting it. Of course, now I'd like to see/hear more of those bands 
From a sound guy perspective (which I'm not) I would think that the kick drum is far more dangerous to speakers than the electric bass (unless you use synth pedals or something that creates huge sub harmonics).
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06-18-2005, 02:45 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2005 Location: Halifax, UK | | | I found a video on Limewire (I think). I was looking for some shredding but it it turned out to be Billy talking about his Attitude, maybe off a Yamaha promo or something I don't know. He talks about neck bending and says a "practical" use of it is to bend his E down to a low B to avoid needing a 5 string.
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06-18-2005, 03:34 PM
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Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | He can neck bend down to a B? Holy crap! Man, I'm glad I have a whammy so I don't have to do that!
BTW, Billy Sheehan stole the neck bend idea from the guitarist Pat Travers, who was the first person I ever saw do it. I'm sure someone else did it before him, but Pat was the first who became known for it...sort of. |
06-18-2005, 05:25 PM
| | Your gonna hurt that thing, or break it off.... | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Plano, TX | | | A friend of mine use to have a kick down on the E string on the top nut. He would grab the thing like he was wrestlin' an alligator and look like he was about to break the neck off. Actually, he'd hit the kick down and float it with his thumb.
It always drew overwelming responses and looked great too, but with little damage to the neck. He did have to tighten the neck and check the bridge after each show to keep it in tonation. |
06-18-2005, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A. In Mr. Big's "Live In San Francisco" video, there's a moment in his solo in which he bends his instrument so much that it sounds like playing a long whammy bar dive bomb. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by JimmyM He can neck bend down to a B? Holy crap! Man, I'm glad I have a whammy so I don't have to do that! | Here it is (maybe not down to a B, but anyway...): http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...W1NBLJUS4ST543 |
06-20-2005, 09:13 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DuPont, Washington | | | looked like he was bending the neck down instead of forward.
Same result, I guess.
We used to do this as kids. Never really found a practical use for it, though. Still would'nt do it on a sentimental bass.
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06-30-2005, 06:39 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Zealand | | | I've started experimenting with using 2 part epoxy adhesive. Warning though, once the neck is glued into the neck joint, there no turning back. |
07-06-2005, 05:40 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Georgia | | | *cringes* OH! I can't stand seeing him do that because my dad and bass mentors have always told me how bad that is for your neck. When I want to bend notes on harmonics I just push down on the strings behind the nut, this doesn't really do much, but I just couldn't bear doing that to my neck.
Also, the guy who mentioned bass whammy's was right. they're sooooo cool. I wish I had one... sigh...
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07-11-2005, 06:25 AM
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07-11-2005, 03:09 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goldsboro / Raleigh NC | | | No wayyy, that's crazy...and funny. |
07-12-2005, 03:37 AM
|  | (((o))) Moderator | | Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Antwerp, Belgium | | | About the bending harmonics thing: I found out that you easily bend a harmonic by
°playing the harmonic
°letting your finger rest on the string while the harmonic is still ringing
°pulling the string sideways to create a bend |
07-12-2005, 11:19 AM
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No wayyy, that's crazy...and funny.
| Didn't seem funny at the time. I didn't break the neck off (I'm not He-Man), but I heard a crack and thought "Oh God". Part of the wood just above the neck gave way. I took it to a luthier and he glued a new neck in, it plays as good as new. I got a whammy bar on my next guitar  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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