chromatic 70's basslines

[Tevin]

What is the idea of the 70's basslines? They go outside the box very often and especially in earth,wind,and fire

[Skitch it!]

Tension and release, keep the interest harmonically.

[Tevin]

Originally Posted by Skitch it!

Tension and release, keep the interest harmonically.

Can you explain it to me in depth?

[JimK]

Originally Posted by Tevin

What is the idea of the 70's basslines? They go outside the box very often and especially in earth,wind,and fire

I learned a big lesson from tunes like "That's The Way Of The World" & "Can't Hide Love"...more chromatic approaches vs. diatonic approaches.
So, going from C to F became this-
From above>
lC_-- --C_ G_Gb_ F_--l

...or from below>
lC_-- --C_ Eb_E_ F_--l

Instead of this-
lC_-- --C_ D_E_ F_--l

Same kinda thing occurs in A taste Of Honey's "Boogie Oogie Oogie" (chorus).

[Tevin]

Originally Posted by JimK

I learned a big lesson from tunes like "That's The Way Of The World" & "Can't Hide Love"...more chromatic approaches vs. diatonic approaches.
So, going from C to F became this-
From above>
lC_-- --C_ G_Gb_ F_--l

...or from below>
lC_-- --C_ Eb_E_ F_--l

Instead of this-
lC_-- --C_ D_E_ F_--l

Same kinda thing occurs in A taste Of Honey's "Boogie Oogie Oogie" (chorus).

Nicely said! I'm trying to figure out why does it sound good

[JimK]

Don't think so much...

[Reaper Man]

I think of chromatic "passing tones" (granted, I may not be using this term correctly, but it's how I think of it/them) as little steps leading you to where you want to be. They sound good, because they make sense and are gradual/small changes.

whereas the 5th sounds good as well, but it's a bit of a bigger jump. that's my theory at least

[Bassguy87564]

I would recommend you learn Verdine White's lines and anyone else who you think has that idea of the 70's bass line. That style of bass playing isn't just about the notes its more about the feel.

[Tevin]

Originally Posted by Reaper Man

I think of chromatic "passing tones" (granted, I may not be using this term correctly, but it's how I think of it/them) as little steps leading you to where you want to be. They sound good, because they make sense and are gradual/small changes.

whereas the 5th sounds good as well, but it's a bit of a bigger jump. that's my theory at least

Does the passing tones cause dissonance?

[nysbob]

Originally Posted by Tevin

Does the passing tones cause dissonance?

Yes, but it's a temporary condition.

They go by quickly, and the the ear hears them as motion toward the target note (usually at the the top of the bar).

That's why they're called passing notes.

[Tevin]

Originally Posted by nysbob

Yes, but it's a temporary condition.

They go by quickly, and the the ear hears them as motion toward the target note (usually at the the top of the bar).

That's why they're called passing notes.

That's weird because sometimes the ear can miss some of these things

[Buxtehude]

Originally Posted by Reaper Man

I think of chromatic "passing tones" (granted, I may not be using this term correctly, but it's how I think of it/them) as little steps leading you to where you want to be. They sound good, because they make sense and are gradual/small changes.

whereas the 5th sounds good as well, but it's a bit of a bigger jump. that's my theory at least

Bingo!

[Buxtehude]

Originally Posted by Tevin

Does the passing tones cause dissonance?

Not so bad when the chromatic movement is stepwise.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by Tevin

Does the passing tones cause dissonance?

...could be a reason why the OP likes it. His ear is telling him that's something is a bit askew...it's out of "the norm"...and he likes it.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by nysbob

They go by quickly, and the the ear hears them as motion toward the target note (usually at the the top of the bar).

Sometimes, with a walking/swing bass line (Four 1/4 notes per bar in this rudimenatry example)...the TARGET Note is played on BEAT_3.
Beat_1 can be a 1/2 step above (or below)
Beat_2 can be a 1/2 step below (or above)
Beat_3 is the Target Note/Root
Beat_4 is a passing Note

[Tevin]

Originally Posted by JimK

Sometimes, with a walking/swing bass line (Four 1/4 notes per bar in this rudimenatry example)...the TARGET Note is played on BEAT_3.
Beat_1 can be a 1/2 step above (or below)
Beat_2 can be a 1/2 step below (or above)
Beat_3 is the Target Note/Root
Beat_4 is a passing Note

I kinda get confused on my theory on this song at the bridge/solo. Love's holiday by earth,wind,and fire is a little complicated at that part. Here it is:
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=MY7WO0_wAJ4

[Tevin]

??