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11-28-2008, 10:10 PM
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Yes the old Beatles song. I'm embarrased but the riff for this song is kicking my a$$.
I know the notes for the riff:
E gg#bed bf# bde
I'm starting the first E in the 7th fret A string should I get the g and g# on the 5 and 6th frets of the D string or the 10th and 11th frets of the A string?
Now if I go with the 10th and 11th frets on the A string do I go ahead and get the 2 Ds on the D string 12th fret?
I'm not great at quick shifts or long stretches so I'm looking for some advice.
Thanks
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11-28-2008, 10:22 PM
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I play the g and g# on the 5th and 6th frets. The d's I play on the 7th fret G string with the higher F# on the 1tth fret of the G.
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11-29-2008, 01:07 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida | | | According to the Hal Leonard book All Time Rock Classics it goes like this:
On the A 7th fret
On the D 5 & 6th & 9th fret
On the G 9th & 7th fret
9th fret on the D
11th fret on the G back to 9th on the D
7 & 9 on the G
It takes one shift to do it
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11-29-2008, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sflajimmy According to the Hal Leonard book All Time Rock Classics it goes like this:
On the A 7th fret
On the D 5 & 6th & 9th fret
... | That's interesting. I have the Beatles Complete Scores book, also published by Hal Leonard. In that book it tabs out to using the 10th and 11th frets on the A string instead of the 5th and 6th frets on the D string.
I think I do find it more comfortable using the G and G# on the D string with the one shift. Now just to work it to get it smooth and up to speed.
Thanks Guys 
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11-29-2008, 09:42 PM
| | | | I always thought that the played it way high on the neck, with the first E on the E string...it sounds much better like that. | 
12-03-2008, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oldrocker That's interesting. I have the Beatles Complete Scores book, also published by Hal Leonard. In that book it tabs out to using the 10th and 11th frets on the A string instead of the 5th and 6th frets on the D string.
I think I do find it more comfortable using the G and G# on the D string with the one shift. Now just to work it to get it smooth and up to speed.
Thanks Guys  | Yeah that is interesting: two different fingerings from the same publisher. Whatever feels the best to you. 
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12-03-2008, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GianGian I always thought that the played it way high on the neck, with the first E on the E string...it sounds much better like that. |
Same here.
When we do that song I play the riff starting on the 12th fret E string.
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12-03-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sflajimmy According to the Hal Leonard book All Time Rock Classics it goes like this:
On the A 7th fret
On the D 5 & 6th & 9th fret
On the G 9th & 7th fret
9th fret on the D
11th fret on the G back to 9th on the D
7 & 9 on the G
It takes one shift to do it |
About a year or so ago- Bass Player transcribed this & TAB'd it in the same fingering as McCartney.
To me, McCartney's fretting hand on this tune is not obvious & not about economy of motion (there are shifts). IIRC, Will Lee assisted on the transcription.
IIRC, SouthFloridaJimmy's post is the way BP transcribed it.
It was also stated that McCartney played the figure an octave "up" ("E" played at the 7th fret)because it would translate/sound better when played through a car's tiny AM radio speakers.
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12-03-2008, 12:42 PM
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12-03-2008, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JTE I don't beleive that the tabbed transcription in Bass Player was based on talking to Paul McCartney, but rather Wil Lee and how he plays it in The Fab Faux.
jte | Right...but someone adept at TAB/transcription will put it right where it is/was played.
Way back when, someone posted why his "Badge" TAB used the "E" & "A" strings with a shift vs. a play-it-1-position (using "E", "A", & "D").
Listening reveals that Bruce played it as the guy's TAB...the "E" is obviously played on the "A" & not @ the 2nd fret/"D"-string.
Anyway, IIRC, Will Lee was TABing it out as played by McCartney.
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12-03-2008, 02:09 PM
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G
D
A ---------- 2
E 0-3-4
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12-03-2008, 05:13 PM
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D----------9--12-9---9-12---
A-----10-11-----------------
E-12------------------------
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12-03-2008, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PRUNEFACE I learned it etc etc
G
D
A ---------- 2
E 0-3-4 | It's up an octave for the bass.
The "E" would be "A"-string/7th fret....then it drops down for the IV chord ("A" played on the "E"-string/5th fret).
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12-03-2008, 06:14 PM
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12-03-2008, 09:45 PM
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12-03-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyM I think it should be played in the who-gives-a-rat's-ass-just-play-the-thing position. | +1 - If it sounds right, play it wherever, IMO.
FWIW, Type O Negative does a cover/medley of this song, and it's pretty bad***. | 
12-04-2008, 09:05 AM
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A. If it sounds right, it is right (regardless of what theory, the TB Collective, etc. say).
B. If ti sounds wrong it is wrong (regardless of what theory, the TB Collective, etc. say).
Yeah, it's in the same octave as the guitar, but ultimately it really doesn't matter if you start at the 7th fret or the 12th, nor reallly where your position shifts are. I've messed with it quite a bit to work out my fingering and I still waffle on which position shift is "better". TAB just tosses another level of interpretation into transcription that some people percieve to be somehow definitiive. Find the notes and work out how to artiiculate them the best for YOU.
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