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Originally Posted by BruceForrest  Okay. We have the case of you. Now let's look at a grandmaster musician who spent much of his very healthy 94 years sitting in a position that YOU claim to be injurious to the body. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Segovia
There's a drawing of him sitting in the way that almost all classical guitarists have sat for centuries, down the page.
Myself and many other bassists play in a more relaxed version of that
position.The instrument is hanging from a strap rather than being
supported by the thighs, therefore no footstand is needed with a normal chair.
It is still an intense posture, but playing music is an intense activity.
One should take breaks to stand and stretch and walk around fairly frequently, regardless of how one sits, or why.
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Bruce |
Hold on there Bruce, I do not claim anything, I state modern medical fact about sitting and posture, you are the one that ' bit into me' with your hearsay and belief based on what others do.
Segovia.......Bruce I will give you the respect and not the sarcasm you showed in you last post, or even the confrontational nature of this one that starts with " okay"
You surely must know that the presentation of a single player means nothing if it can be countered with an example of another?
So I give you Carol Kaye. Not only a bass player and musician, but a studio player, and someone who throughout her career has sat feet flat on the floor. Check out YouTube for footage of her.
Yes I agree a classical position is one to use, but use it with the feet flat on the floor. Classical guitars such as the type used by Segovia, were not cut always, so they would have to be raised to give access to the upper frets. Again this would have been for the benefit to access the frets rather than any comfort or neutral position.
As modern guitars have cut always they do not need to be so angled as the cut away gives access to the upper frets, so the feet can stay flat on the floor.
Yes to getting up and walking about, very beneficial not only during, but before sitting. Like I said use stretches and warm ups.
With what I read you seem to support the idea about having feet flat on the ground, but using a strap to support the bass.....as many players, myself included do.......so I find your original objections not sort of agreeing with what I posted.
So with the spirit of an open debate I will give you some points to search on to keep this relevant to the points being made by yourself and me. Please Search
The correct posture for sitting.
Medical conditions associated with sitting.
Medical conditions associated with sitting crossed legged.
Blood pressure and circulation problems associated with sitting.
Blood pressure and circulation problems associated with sitting cross legged.
The effects of fatigue when standing or sitting.
The effects of illness on standing or sitting.
The effects of smoking on the circulation of those who sit for long periods.
And so on, you get the idea.
Remember my original post you so nicely took the time to cut and paste to make your points....well please read the first paragraph, I sets out the criteria for the post you cut and pasted from. I deals with not a posture that supports the bass, but one that supports the body. It set the body first then the bass, not set the bass and have the body adjust to it.
Now since this is ultimately about beliefs I know that someone entrenched in a belief will not accept the facts staring them in the face, so I'm cool with that if you are?
But if you want to make you point please come up with more than one classic guitarist, born over a hundred years ago who would never have had the access to the medical knowledge and understanding we have today. He was born in to that system and culture where the player was made to fit the instrument, rather than the instrument made to fit them.
