Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-14-2010, 10:03 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baltimore, MD.
Finger Raking

Sign in to disble this ad
Hey guys. I'm in the process of working through the Bass for Dummies book, and am currently on the finger warm ups chapter. In the string skipping exercise it says to alternate fingers when going from a low string to a high string, but when goign from a high to a low, to "rake" the strings with the same finger. This feels a little weird, and doesn't sound very even to me. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with my technique, but I was just wondering if this is the correct way to play when skipping from high to low. Thanks.
__________________
--Matt--
  #2  
Old 07-14-2010, 10:19 AM
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
no it's not. do that on a very fast riff with a lot of 16th notes in a row and you will end up screwing yourself. i used to play stuff like that very sloppily until dave larue straightened me out and told me not to rake. when you take lessons from him he won't allow it at all. improved my bass playing by a lot.

you will find a lot of people on here say raking is the way to string skip down, and maybe on slower passages that's ok, but i guarantee you it will screw you every time you want to do something quick. always alternate...that's my rule.
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
  #3  
Old 07-14-2010, 12:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Baltimore, MD.
Thanks man, I didn't think it felt right. It just has a different sound to it.
__________________
--Matt--
  #4  
Old 07-14-2010, 07:09 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Virginia Washington DC
Send a message via AIM to Jason P Bass
I agree with JimmyM, but just to spice things up, there is a video of Billy Sheehan talking technique on youtube. He specifically talks about raking, and he is amazingly fast at it. He seems to approach it as a special effect, though. For regular playing, I think he probably continues the 3-finger pattern when going down a string.

But when he does those rakes: I've been practicing some of them and you can get some really cool effects.
__________________
What's the best mace for battle?
  #5  
Old 07-14-2010, 10:12 PM
Registered User

Endorsing: Ampeg
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Apopka, FL
jason, yeah, i had a few people change my mind about specific applications for raking such as billy's when i went into a no raking rant a few years ago. so i'm not quite as militant as i once was, but as you said in so many words, strict alternation should be the rule and raking should be a specialty exception.
__________________
Ampeg Portaflex Club #1
  #6  
Old 07-14-2010, 10:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kolkata (Calcutta), India
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason P Bass View Post
I agree with JimmyM, but just to spice things up, there is a video of Billy Sheehan talking technique on youtube.
Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oggshbPAzTE
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by elavate7 View Post
people walk up to me and say "play some Joni hindrix"
Acoustic Bass Club #128, Zoom Owners' Club Founder, Vegetarian Club #54
  #7  
Old 07-25-2010, 06:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Staffordshire, UK
Before I played with three fingers id always rake with a couple exceptions to use my dominant finger when necessary, but now I use three fingers I always rake. As with anything you just have to practice slowly to attain clarity of notes and to stop them bleeding into each other, but after a while as billy sheehan's demonstrated, it does facilitate fast playing without having to think as much.

There are a few songs such as pretty little ditty or leverage of space, by the chilis (youtube them! You'll be surprised!) or butterfly by crazytown that actually count on raking to create the right flow for the song and trying to alternate then would make it damn near impossible. The fact is there are no hard and fast rules with an instrument,and its an art not a science, so don't take any rules of thumb as gospel because you could be potentially stopping yourself from writing the next great bass part that people learn and upload to youtube. If it doesn't sound right, its probably down to your technique, not the technique itself.
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:42 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.