Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-25-2011, 03:44 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Finger tips or fat pad????

Sign in to disble this ad
Let`s make different comparisons
For stright 8ths hard rock?? I choose tips of the finger
For jazz the fat pad
Bossa fat pad

In straight 8ths for a neat playing do you consider playing with the tip is better to emulate a pick
  #2  
Old 05-25-2011, 03:54 AM
sethlow3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Supporting Member
IMHO there is no such thing as "emulation of a pick"... put the headphones on and really see if the fingers (no matter how they are used, curved etc..) are anywhere close to what a pick sounds like. The attack is very different, as well as the overtones. The pick is it's own unique sound.

As much as I used to hold the opposite opinion, even non musicians will tell you that they hear an immediate difference. It's just undeniable IMO. The sound is just different, and I love it!

As far as using fingers curved or not... That Jaco tone can be better achieved with the fingers curved by the bridge and has a cool tone that has a lot of bite to it. The "fat pad" approach (used by many players including Victor Wooten) has a much fatter sound. I challenge others to try both live and the difference will be immediately clear to anyone's ears.

All 3 techniques have their place, but I tend to do the fat pad and pick more than anything because they are the most versatile to my ears. YMMV
__________________
"If you don't feel it, don't play it." ---James Jamerson
  #3  
Old 05-25-2011, 08:37 AM
dbhokie's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Supporting Member
I change it up based on my attack for the song, if I want it to sound a little more aggressive, and want the notes to pop out, bit funkier then I'll use the pads. If I want a warm kind of melting together type tone I'll use the tips, of course with muting to adjust both.
  #4  
Old 05-25-2011, 08:42 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: St. Louis // St. Charles, MO
I can get a 'close to pick' attack with my finger tips. It's much easier to get a pick attack with a pick (no-brainer), but as for being able to emulate a pick attack without a pick - you can indeed emulate it with your finger tips. YMMV, of course - and of course there are some circumstances where a pick is simply the best way to achieve the sound required - citing Chris Squire's lines as exhibit 'A'.

But as for being able to get the immediacy and staccato aspects of pick-style, you can definitely come close with a tight, finger tip focused attack and unless you are really going for the full-on pick-style thing, you can get more body and other sonic goodness from finger tips that are difficult to achieve with a pick without adjusting eq.

If I have a song where I need to emulate a pick sound but also a more traditional finger-style sound, I opt for 100% fingers vs. switching between pick and fingers. I find the difference in sound between picks and fingers is too great to mix them up since I don't use pedals or other 'on the fly' eq modification.
__________________
On Groove Duty

Last edited by tZer : 05-25-2011 at 08:46 AM.
  #5  
Old 05-25-2011, 02:31 PM
sethlow3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Supporting Member
Since we are talking about switching between pick and fingers... this is pretty similar to how I do it... enjoy!

YouTube - ‪Bobby Vega‬‏
__________________
"If you don't feel it, don't play it." ---James Jamerson
  #6  
Old 05-25-2011, 06:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cayce, SC
I play with the tips, but just a tad on the side toward the thumb. BUT...I also use my guitar-picking nails. Not too long, but enough to give a click. Sometimes it's a nuisance, and I'll lower the highs to get the click out, more than some folks would normally lower them. But, I sure can get some interesting tones this way. When I want a fatter sound I'll play closer to the fingerboard. Toward the bridge I can sound just like a pick. Best of both worlds, actually.
__________________
2001 American Series Jazz Bass / 1987 Jazz Bass Special
Markbass Little Mark III / dual 151P cabs / 121H combo
  #7  
Old 05-26-2011, 09:31 PM
sethlow3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Nashville, Tennessee
Supporting Member
Again... the only way one can sound "just like a pick" is to use one. Simple as that. Even the great Entwistle, as cool as he was, just didn't have the same tone as the myriad of pick players out there. It just isn't possible.

Curved fingers is a cool thing, but fingers just don't sound like a pick. Mix and match basses, amps, and eq's there simply isn't a comparison. Pure physics won't allow for it...
__________________
"If you don't feel it, don't play it." ---James Jamerson
  #8  
Old 05-27-2011, 05:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Saint Augustine, Florida
When I want a warm, kinda fat, round tone, I use my finger pads because they're softer. I use my fingertips for notes a little boomier, and when I want some aggressive attack, I use my fingernails. I grow them out for that.
__________________
Ibanez BTB club # 152
  #9  
Old 05-27-2011, 08:39 PM
emblymouse's Avatar
Incense and Peppermints

Endorsing Artist: Lakland / Schroeder /Bag End
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: W' Sconsin
Supporting Member
The meaty side of the thumb gives a whole different 'cush'. It also lends itself to certain grooves, makes you keep it simple.
"It's not just for Country anymore"
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:44 AM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.