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Old 06-07-2008, 09:05 PM
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Right then, this has been bumping around in my head for some time now, but I never bothered putting the time in to see if it would work.

One day, whilst reading about lefties who play reverse strung (G at top, down to an E) and the benefits that lefties could gain for their fretting hand if they used a right hander bass etc, I decided it might be worth trying out my right hand for fretting rather than my left (I am right handed, but i thought it might build strength, leading to a faster, stronger picking hand.) and so flipped my bass over 180 degrees.

My left hand was faster, but less controlled and focused (it really is all in the fingers ) with a flabby tone, it was however much happier to integrate the pinky finger (which has straightened out and gained 5mm on its co-part) both in the 1,2,3,4 and 4,3,2,1 styles, and seemed not too much slower than my right hand at picking (all my time practicing fingerstyle wasted , my left lacks any co-ordination for moving up and down strings however). The sound was relatively consistent, and with a little practice, I may be able to even it out into steady notes.

The real thing was that my hand was completely relaxed and that felt wonderful! I now understand the tension is the enemy motto. I think this was mainly due to the lack of control I had over my picking with the left however, leading to longer, more languid strokes, and though that is bad, I think it shows my fretting hand's wrist has been strengthened in a different way to my picking hand.

My right hand was a different story; when it attempted the first songs I ever learnt to play ("Hey" by The Pixies and "Peaches" by The Stranglers) and failed miserably for a while, and after 15 minutes I could play a mockery of both songs, sliding with my index, and just about using the middle finger. Only a little worse than starting again.

Now, obviously the two hands develop strength in different muscles and parts of the hand, which overlap somewhat. This leads to different types of co-ordination and agility on each hand etc etc.

If your still reading this, I commend your patience

The question is: Should I set aside and hour or so of practice time (I can find myself about 4 if I really want) a day to make both hands more well rounded and strong in both ways, with the hope that it will improve my ability and stamina overall? (As well as provide a neat little stage trick )

Or will this just confuse me/destroy my technique/damage my wrists/make my joints arthritic even sooner etc?

With the masses of experience on here, and the sheer number of different opinions and viewpoints available, I thought I may as well ask.

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Sorry for all the pointing out the obvious things you all know already, for creating a wall of text, and using "picking hand constantly", (as well as brackets) and the long, oddly phrased sentences.

My writing really doesn't read like a UK native's should does it?
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Why not just spend that hour getting better at the way you already play?
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The few times I gave lessons to newbies, I flipped the bass for myself just to remember what it's like putting a bass in my hands for the first time. I bet it would turn jaco in a blabbering idiot on the bass.
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we cannot all be Michael Angelo Battio. what Pacman said.
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The few times I gave lessons to newbies, I flipped the bass for myself just to remember what it's like putting a bass in my hands for the first time. I bet it would turn jaco in a blabbering idiot on the bass.
I've done the same thing for that reason. It was like a trip through time. Kind of scary and depressing.
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Sorted then, having used Pacman's practice method and seen the improvement, I am inclined to accept his response as near gospel as far as technique goes.

I had to look up Michael Angelo Batio, I'd heard the guitarists I know uttering the name with much respect, and talking about how amazing he is whilst drooling. His technique is obviously good, but I'm not a fan of what he does with it, his music doesn't do anything for me and its not really what I was aiming for.

Anyway, it was a bad idea, thanks to all for confirming this
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Bro, trust me...I didn't speak Mr. battio's name with any reverence.
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I was thinking of this but became very discouraged when I tried it. For me I think it was worse than the first time I tried righthanded.
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talking about michael angelo, how would you compare him to buckethead?
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I'm betting that most of us have flipped one over before.

I tried doing it with the ol' lady once, (note to self: Don't do that again!).
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:35 PM
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Dunno about actually flipping the bass ...


But my good friend Neal Jones plays the bass strung lefty with the strings themselves strung either way!



... Here is a shot of him playing lefty, low B on the bottom
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The few times I gave lessons to newbies, I flipped the bass for myself just to remember what it's like putting a bass in my hands for the first time. I bet it would turn jaco in a blabbering idiot on the bass.

Holy Lord...This is really, really hard! 5 minutes of this and my RH fingers ache in places I didn't even know they could ache.
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as not to let this thread die without me chiming in about inverted players:

I also play inverted, and it is as normal to me as you guys playing with the strings on the normal way. Was it harder to "LEARN" that way----nope. Notes are notes, chords are chords, those things are universal. Can I play lefty with the strings on normally, YES as I have a good friend that plays lefty/normal, and let's me jam on his bass all the time -- Do I feel as confident playing lefty/normal?, nope since I have always played inverted. However for me to just pick up a bass and play righthanded inverted or not---well ..thats another story...


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I used to know a guy who would flip the bass over and play lefty occasionally. When he did it, the entire bottom would drop out of the band, but he thought it was amazing. Once he got into a band of real good musicians a couple years later, they told him to stop it.

There is nothing wrong with trying it, but if it doesn't work, know your limitations and don't do it.
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