Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Technique [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Technique [BG] Bass guitar technique discussions


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 12-07-2010, 05:56 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Send a message via MSN to Zulla
Fretless Bass exercises please!

Sign in to disble this ad
Hello,
I've made a purchase of a new bass, and I'd like to really get into it.

I've been playing for around 4 years, but never really got into the fretless world, and now's my chance!

If possible, I'd like to ask you all fretless'ers if you can recomend me as many exercises as possible, even if they are as simple as starting from scratch (that's pretty much what I'm going to do here!).

Thanks!

Cheers!
  #2  
Old 12-07-2010, 07:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulla View Post
Hello,
I've made a purchase of a new bass, and I'd like to really get into it.

I've been playing for around 4 years, but never really got into the fretless world, and now's my chance!

If possible, I'd like to ask you all fretless'ers if you can recomend me as many exercises as possible, even if they are as simple as starting from scratch (that's pretty much what I'm going to do here!).

Thanks!

Cheers!
I'd start off simply playing the material you already know and have always played on the fretted on the fretless. You already know all the fingerings, so all that's left is just doing it without the frets .

That's literally about all I did for probably the first couple years after I switched to fretless. My tone was so much better I never got tired of keeping after it until I could play in tune, had adjusted for the differences and so on.

IMO, that's really the best place to start that isn't mind-numbingly boring. It'll be shocking because you'll feel like you're just learning how to play again, but you have the advantage of already knowing the tunes....

LS
  #3  
Old 12-07-2010, 07:50 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: USA
Do you have a sequencer that will play chords you program?
  #4  
Old 12-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Toronto Canada
Record yourself and hear if you're playing in tune.
__________________
1983 Ibanez Roadstar II/1986 Roadstar II/Markbass CMD102P/Sansamp Bass driver deluxe/Vintage Ibanez BP10 compressor
  #5  
Old 12-07-2010, 08:00 PM
bass_lord_mutha's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Midland/Odessa, TX
Supporting Member
Play with a tuner and start off slowly playing scales and arpeggios in major and minor scales in different keys, stopping each note long enough for the tuner to register if it's in tune or not. Make the necessary adjustments and keep playing, being mindful of your finger placement. After awhile you will start to develop a muscle memory for your finger placement. Pay special attenton to 1/2 position scales (F and Bb keys namely). At least for me, those are a bit trickier than first position and 2nd position scales.

Another thing you could do that I picked up from Dale Titus on the now defunct Bass Survival 101 page on Warwick's website is to record yourself playin scales on a fretted bass, then play the recordings back while playing along with the fretless bass. This will help train your ear to the intonation of each note while building your muscle memory.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by powderfinger View Post
He said, "I can rock the f*** outta some Buddy Holly".
The 'Non-Clubs' club member #1...I'm a walking contradiction!
  #6  
Old 12-07-2010, 08:03 PM
Ivan M's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NewYork, NY
GOLD Supporting Member
Also go here there is a lot of info.

www.fretlessbass.com
__________________
Sadowsky NYC Standard 5
Sadowsky NYC Vintage 5
Valenti VMJ4 #101
Sadowsky club member #326
TC Electronics Amp & Cabs
  #7  
Old 12-07-2010, 08:04 PM
Guest
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by unclejane View Post
I'd start off simply playing the material you already know and have always played on the fretted on the fretless. You already know all the fingerings, so all that's left is just doing it without the frets .

That's literally about all I did for probably the first couple years after I switched to fretless. My tone was so much better I never got tired of keeping after it until I could play in tune, had adjusted for the differences and so on.

IMO, that's really the best place to start that isn't mind-numbingly boring. It'll be shocking because you'll feel like you're just learning how to play again, but you have the advantage of already knowing the tunes....

LS
huge +1. I think it is the best way to work your intonation and to see what work and what need more wood shed
  #8  
Old 12-10-2010, 08:52 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Jaco said the best practice was playing a fretted with you fingers right on top of the frets. It works.
  #9  
Old 12-11-2010, 09:26 AM
BassChuck's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cincinnati
Supporting Member
Steve Bailey's fretless book has alot of good exercises for intonation.

Anything you can do to keep octave and fifths in tune will be a help to your play.
__________________
Never confuse beauty with things that put your mind at ease. -Charles E. Ives
  #10  
Old 12-11-2010, 09:57 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Winnipeg, MB
If its an unlined fretless, start off by playing tunes you know but also try and find the 'sweet spots' on the guitar. Like already mentioned, a fretless is much less forgiving and pressing in the middle of a fret may not necessarily be where the in-tune note is.
__________________
Keep it funky
  #11  
Old 12-12-2010, 03:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Send a message via MSN to Setebos
I recently got my first Fretless.
I play a lot of the things I already play with my fretted bass. That helps cause you already have the sound in your head and will realize if your intonation is off.
However one thing I noticed when I play fretless is that I start playing in one position and sometimes my position moves little by little. With this small movement I dont hear problems with intonation as the whole thing is moving together. But when I check my left hand is may be 5 milimiters closer to the bridge.
One thing I use sometimes to check and guide my intonation when playing it to use open strings.
Hope this can help.
__________________
Fretless Club #586, Official Fernandes Club#21
  #12  
Old 12-12-2010, 03:13 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: NW Ohio
put on a bunch of tunes you know and play with your eyes closed or in the dark. I've had my fretless P for 40 years(almost) and I bought a lined Rob Allen..I think it made my ears lazy
__________________
better than prozac
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:32 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.