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11-15-2007, 09:18 PM
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I just joined a christian hardcore band and have never played music like this before much less even listened to it. however, i like it but i am so used to coming up with and playing rock or funk that i dont know how to construct a hardcore bass line. so far i have been just following the rhythm guitar with roots but i would like to broaden my range of playing options. what are some hardcore songs with good bass lines for me to learn from?
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11-15-2007, 09:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nyc...Queens 718 | | | Songs....... forget songs.....get Sick Of It All - Blood, Sweat and No Tears , Wazone - Don't Forget The Struggle Don't Forget The Streets/ Open Your Eyes, Kill Your Idols - This Is Just The Beginning ep or their No Gimmicks Needed album. This will show you how real hardcore is played. | 
11-15-2007, 09:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minnesota | | | what kind of hardcore are you talking about?? | 
11-16-2007, 08:24 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada | | Quote:
Originally Posted by xBECKx what kind of hardcore are you talking about?? | that's what I'm wondering too.
Hardcore is a term used in many genres. | 
11-16-2007, 12:49 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisiana | | | its a christian hardcore band. breakdowns often and odd melodic riffs.
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11-16-2007, 01:11 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada | | so hardcore metal?
it's good to make the bass melodic, but heavy and punchy aswell., add in fast runs, tri-tones are usually used a lot in hardcore.
learn odd timings, a lot of hardcore bands use breakdowns with weird rhythms
like this, at about 40 seconds in http://youtube.com/watch?v=3yvXqXIv-rs
it's also good to be able to keep up with the guitars when it comes to shredding and fast licks.
you should probably get used to odd tempos. incase the band is into mathcore. it helps with making the music run smoother and working out the timing around it instead of keeping the music restricted to a single time signater like 4/4. http://youtube.com/watch?v=7JA8K1PDM5M
and very important, have fun. be free when playing, hardcore audiences like bands that get into their music, so don't stand still. it's a great way to let out built up aggression or stress actually, just let loose to the music.
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11-16-2007, 01:16 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: U.S. | | | between the buried and me is an amazing harcore band. you should check them out they will make your head spin.
but it seems in this genre the bassist is either crazy fast and good or they just play roots the entire time. but since the guitars are so crazy most of the time its good to stick with the drummer. but if you want to go crazy and riff like hell id say go for it as long as you know enough theory to be able to play something that sounds good over the guitar.
its really fun to play once you get into it. | 
11-16-2007, 01:27 PM
| | Registered User el Jefe: Rude Mechtronics | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | | Let me add the following to your MUST listen to list:
Underoath "Define the great line"
Norma Jean "O God the aftermath"
Botch "We are the Romans"
Botch "American Nervosa"
Botch "Anthology of dead ends"
(Listen to Botch)
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11-16-2007, 01:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA | | | Still pretty lost with where you're trying to get. When I think Hardcore, I think Dead Kennedys. Dead Kennedys meet Jesus? That would be a site to behold. Give a couple of your "hardcore" influences so we can aid you better?
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11-16-2007, 01:30 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Torrance, CA | | We probably need a little more info. Do they play in time signatures other than 4/4? What bands are they influenced by? A lot of the early hardcore bassists (think Black Flag, Minor Threat, etc.) had very similar styles, but a lot of the current ones are very different from each other and do lots of different things, especially stuff in the "progressive" or "math" varieties (think Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge, etc.). Also "hardcore" and "metal" bands tread a very thin line nowadays, so it's not surprising to see a metal band get called hardcore and vice versa. In fact, many people just use the lazy term "metalcore." Someone once wrote in Maximum Rock and Roll or Punk Planet that most hardcore nowadays that gets reviewed is just one minute metal songs.  | 
11-16-2007, 01:50 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada | | | +1 for Between The Buried And Me
Definately one the greatest metal bands around.
learning their songs improved my playing immensely.
they will blow you're mind.
not sure if I would call them a hardcore band, they cover a vast amount of genres, it's impossible to pin any label on them.
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11-16-2007, 02:08 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlanta | | | check out underoath, emery, demon hunter, haste the day.
Not hardcore but some great talent: Edison Glass
Solidstate and Tooth and Nail records carry alot of Christian Rock/hardcore musician's. You should check out their sites | 
11-16-2007, 02:17 PM
| | | | +2 for Between The Buried And Me. Dan Briggs is amazing on bass and you can buy a book with most of the songs of their last album "Alaska" It has tabs as well if you can't read music | 
11-16-2007, 02:25 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Eastern Wisconsin | | | Listen to Limp Wrist
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11-16-2007, 02:37 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisiana | | | one of my band's favorite bands is The Devil Wears Prada. we cover dogs can grow beards all over. our sound and style is a lot like that. and we usually dont play in 4/4. if we do it just a momentary timing change before going into something else.
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11-16-2007, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada | | | alright, so those bands I posted will help, they're similar to those bands. | 
11-16-2007, 11:39 PM
| | Registered User el Jefe: Rude Mechtronics | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia | | I'm telling you - forget everybody else's suggestions, just listen to Botch 
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11-17-2007, 12:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada | | | Botch is great.
and Minus The Bear is amazing
but those other bands will definately help. | 
11-17-2007, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Saetia Listen to Limp Wrist | lol | 
11-17-2007, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas | | John Henry Vs. The Machiene.
Scott, is amazing. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=95091825
listen to Deuces wild.
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