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04-08-2003, 08:44 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Lee's Summit, MO | | | Here's the key to groovin'......
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not that I profess to be a groove-guru, and I'm sure this is common knowledge to a lot of TBers, but....
this weekend I finally found it, the key to a good groove; playing on the back end of the beat, almost late! I've heard and read of playing at the front and back of the beat, but never really understood the whys and wherefores of this. So this past weekend I suddenly started doing this, and MAN, it made a difference.
Just wanted to share, your comments are welcome....
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04-08-2003, 08:52 AM
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04-08-2003, 08:58 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hampshire, UK | | | Yes, this is the difference between groove & edge I believe. And, IME, playing on the back of the beat isn't as easy as it sounds (my tendency would be to rush, you see).
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04-08-2003, 09:12 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Lee's Summit, MO | | | I'm sure in the past I was playing on the front "edge" of the beat also. It is a little more difficult to get on that back edge, but ooooh what a difference it can make......
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04-08-2003, 10:56 AM
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When you're swinging, however, it's all about the front edge....
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04-08-2003, 03:03 PM
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I think it really depends on they style of the music. When I was in Atlanta, playing R&B, groove jazz and funk, the back of the beat (waaaaay back) was where it was at.
When you're swinging, however, it's all about the front edge.... | Beat me to it. Grooving means different things, depending on the groove you're in. You really can't play bop right if you're lolling on the tailgate of the beat, but you can't play reggae right if you're hanging ten off the front of the beat either. (How's that for some mangled metaphors?)
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04-08-2003, 07:12 PM
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Raggae players have been doing that for ages, although check out the bass line for Squeeze's "Black Coffe in Bed", a very nice example of that. Although, you cannot do that all the time, it depends on what type of music you are playing.
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04-09-2003, 08:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Eastern Townships, Québec | | It's pretty d*mn hard to play on the back or the front end of the beat with a lousy drummer. When the drummer is dragging (I'm not sure if this is the right word for it), you HAVE to play on top of the beat, which screws up reggae grooves pretty well.  On the other hand, if the drummer is rushing, you've got to "hold him (her) back", which makes crappy walking lines.  | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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