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01-09-2011, 07:56 PM
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Say you've got to alternately play the 7th fret on the D and G strings a few times, do you just bar both strings with your index finger or do you play each note with its own finger? I've been learning Ramble On by Zeppelin and during the chorus JPJ plays the A and D on the 7th frets over two measures and I'm having a little trouble doing it in a way that I can get back down the board. I hope this makes sense. 
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01-09-2011, 07:58 PM
| | | | if it was on the e and a or b and e string i'd use separate fingers, if it was the d and g string i'd probably bar it. but it would depend what the rest of my fingers are doing - if I don't have to play anything else might as well avoid exerting unnecessary effort and use the two fingers.
I was playing something the other day that involved hammer on/pull offs in that position, the tab would look like
5-h-7-p-5
5-h-7-p-5
gotta bar that even if i'd rather not
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01-10-2011, 02:38 AM
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01-10-2011, 03:07 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Columbia, SC | | | i generally bar it, unless it'd be unfeasible to do so(ie needing to play notes lower on the same strings in the same run)
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01-10-2011, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by maturanesa I use separate fingers because its easy to mute the note your not playing | +1
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01-10-2011, 04:59 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati | | | Interesting question. For years I used a separate finger, very much a 'guitar' technique. Now I'm playing fretless abour 80% of the time and I had to break that old habit because with different fingers the intonation of one of the notes was off. So now, even when playiing fretted, I try to bar the two strings and deal with muting problems in other ways.
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01-10-2011, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BassChuck Interesting question. For years I used a separate finger, very much a 'guitar' technique. Now I'm playing fretless abour 80% of the time and I had to break that old habit because with different fingers the intonation of one of the notes was off. So now, even when playiing fretted, I try to bar the two strings and deal with muting problems in other ways. | What kind of other ways? I mean, I don't play fretless (not yet, at least  ) but I'm interested in how you would actually do that | 
01-10-2011, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Heathen What kind of other ways? I mean, I don't play fretless (not yet, at least  ) but I'm interested in how you would actually do that | Not meaning to jump in, but I'm also a convert to using barring almost exclusively when I switched to fretless some years ago. The two-finger technique can be used, but yes intonation is a problem with it.
For muting, I use the floating thumb technique, but if you're ascending, you end up muting the lower string by "hammer-stroking" when you pluck the next string. Along with the FT, that's an effective muting method. Going down, I mute the higher string with the left hand.
Sometimes I'll "hop" directly across to the lower string especially if I"m improvising and didn't have time to prepare by barring both strings. This is kind of cheezy tho and usually doesn't give clear notes especially if you're going fast. In anything where I prepare for this, I always barr now.
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01-10-2011, 01:31 PM
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01-10-2011, 01:42 PM
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There is that part in the verse riff, going from the 7 to the 9, up to the 11, and then the 9 on G where I keep the 9's barred. Other than that I use normal fingering. We probably play it differently though. It depends on the song for me, I don't have problems with baring, but it can be pretty awkward.
I.E. Iron Maiden's "Phantom of the Opera", theres a (bridge? interlude?) part where I hit 7 on A, 9 on D, and 9 on G in succession, repeatedly. For that I find barring impractical, it just depends on the context.
Edit: Wait I know the part, yeah I barr the 7's. You hit the 9, pull your index finger back over the string to get the 7, hammer-on the 9 again, and this gives me a lot of "breathing room" to jump back to the 7 on the A which is what my verse starts on. I can send you the tab if this is different to what you play, you should have no trouble moving your hand around the neck in this version.
I don't think I'm allowed to tab out and post what I'm talking about though, since it's copyrighted?
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01-10-2011, 02:00 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada | | | Barred/rolled with the 1st finger. I think you meant the A and D at the 5th fret where that figure is played. Yes?
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01-10-2011, 03:39 PM
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01-10-2011, 05:37 PM
| | | | I bar on Ramble On... I assume that you are talking about the chorus. But it just depends on the song most of the time for me.
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01-10-2011, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by maturanesa I use separate fingers because its easy to mute the note your not playing | +1
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